# Crashes in the News - Thread

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#### henryk

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I couldn’t see that on the second cam view to confirm,
=after bird streaking we can hear RPM lowering(seconds),then unstability...

#### henryk

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that may be what brought him down.

=moore,but NOT correct !

#### henryk

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I couldn’t see that on the second cam view to confirm,
=standart camera have short,but "blinde" time between frames...(cam 1 & 2 was not synchronized).

#### henryk

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=CAM1 =5-6 sec. (black bird at the propeller bladetip !)

#### D Hillberg

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Bird or not - It lost control - Failure mode #1 = single point failure loss of control, no autorotation no glide.

And you think of this as a means of 'safe' travel ? ? ?

#### Hephaestus

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Well...that's exactly what testing is supposed to prove or disprove. The developers probably learned more from this crash than any of the previous flights.

At least I HOPE so.....

Ron Wanttaja
Except these are customers not developers

Dubai police are the ones playing on this unit...

#### D Hillberg

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Can use a Stanley Escape system . . .

Just not under wires or bridges.

#### henryk

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The developers probably learned more from this crash than any of the previous flights.
=yes !

but Firma NOT !

=12 kWh/ 4*30 kW=circa 6 minut ...

#### TurbAero

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According to eyewitnesses, there was smoke coming from the aircraft while it was descending. Looking at the photo in the press release, there appears to be fire damage to the right wing root and fuselage. Not a nice situation to be in and would have been very scary for the 17 year old pilot.

#### jedi

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Delos “Dee”Echlin was flying a single-engine RV4 from Tucson to Safford when it went down.

He was a good man and a friend. I was notified by his son (a Commonwealth Sky Ranger pilot) yesterday.

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#### Bill-Higdon

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Ne mention of type

Speechless.

#### Tiger Tim

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^ I think that number has since been bumped up to 40% - so nearly half!

#### Hephaestus

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^ I think that number has since been bumped up to 40% - so nearly half!
I'm still trying to wrap my brain around the workload in an airbus a320 cockpit to manage to land gear up...

Isn't there a video of one of the corporate test pilots talking about how hard the flyby in France was because the computer wouldn't let them get that low that fast, clean with the gear up?