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  1. Oct 1, 2015 #21

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    I personally think the Farman Carte Postale is the neatest from the list. In general, it's a fairly normal airplane that I think any pilot can relate to and picture themselves flying, but just look at how much character it has!
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    How 'bout a 1914 Beachey-Eaton Monoplane (Beachey Special)? (Perhaps with some structural improvements...)

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  3. Oct 1, 2015 #23

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    If I remember right, the Carte Postale ("post card") was made using section of Farman Goliath wing. It's definitely cool, though it might be worth increasing the size of that rudder.

    494033855_db278817ca.jpg Farman-goliath.jpg
     
  4. Oct 1, 2015 #24

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    WREN: Build off: English-Electric Wren - RC Groups
     

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    Thanks, cscardinal, but I wonder if I misunderstood...this appears to be a DXF file of plans for a model English Electric Wren, not the full-size original.
     
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    "provided by a large scale RC modeler."

    I'm not surprised they're of a model.
     
  7. Oct 2, 2015 #27

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    I once read a period comment that Farman wings were "Made by the mile and sawn off as needed." I'm sure it wasn't ever that literal but it's a fun thought...
     
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    That is fun, though I suspect it was intended as a jab at the squared-off wingtips that Farman favored for a time.

    Here's are a couple of pics of models in flight that give a nice sense of what a real, full-size replica Carte Postale might look like.

    a179490-198-flight1.jpg farman_carte_postale.jpg
     
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    You have to decide what materials you want to work with, how much time you are willing to spend building, and how much of a "flyer" versus a "display" airplane you want to wind up with.

    Without this basic decision matrix, all of us (including the OP) are spinning our wheels.
     
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    Indeed. Which is why I am leaning HEAVILY towards either the Farman "Carte Postale" or the enclosed AVRO Type F. They are more "aircraft" than the other choices, and might actually be enjoyable to take out on a nice day. With the Farman, I could even bring a (daring) friend.

    As much as I'd like to build a bundle of sticks, these are much more "doable".

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  11. Oct 2, 2015 #31

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    I mentioned them more for their use as a size and layout reference. You could always scale up as needed.

    Chris
     
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    Oh, and you'd be very popular at fly-ins if it was very hot, or if it rained. ;-p
     
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    So one more aircraft as come to my attention, and it may have my "bundle of sticks" look and feel plus flyability in one package. I present the Airco DH-2. Small and fun looking, it fits in with both the pioneer and the WWI crowds.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airco_DH.2

    That said, it is still a toss up between the AVRO Type F and the Farman Carte Postale. Knowing the only Carte Postale was destroyed puts it in the lead, as there is an AVRO replica hanging from the ceiling at MOSI.

    The trouble is, there are so many great looking planes out there, that the more research I do the more I uncover. I've found more early AVRO designs than I knew existed! Those RC guys have it easy, they can fill the basement with every plane they want. LOL I could add more to the list every day: Caudron Monoplane, AVRO Type D, Etc...

    Chris

    Airco_DH-2_3_vues.jpg
     
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    I'm trying to send a subliminal text message: ...a...v...r...o...f......a...v...r...o...f......a...v...r...o...f...

    A while back got enamored with the AVRO F. I built the little card stock model from Fiddlers Green for insperation and made a few SolidWorks doodles of a VW powered AVRO F. I think it would be as much fun to build it as it would to fly it.
     
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    Sopwith Triplane?
     
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    As. WW1 buff and lover of a DH2. It is a pretty big airplane, volume wise. They supposedly fly good and years ago I think sands had plans.
     
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    Does anything resembling full scale drawings exist for the Carte Postale?
     
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    Redfern had DH-2 plans several years ago, his son has taken over the Redfern Plans business. I talked to him a year or two ago (he lives about two miles from me) but he didn't have the DH-2 plans "in stock" so I went home with a set of Dr-1 plans instead. His DH-2 is very authentic and probably a pretty challenging build.

    Airdrome Aeroplanes has a 75% DH-2 but it's not super authentic looking.
     
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    That's right Redfern had them
     
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    Just a thought... The AVRO F came out in 1912, 2 years before WW-1 started. Only 9 years after the Wright Brothers first flight (14 years before the Carte Postale).

    ...besides if you build one I can use your plans to build mine:gig:
     
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