Hi Percy, had an email from Cliff, Freds' son, a week or so back. To be honest he didn't really give me much info, apart from "possibly" getting more involved with the LMA website ???? but despite several other "interested parties" ??? posting emails, nobody has heard back from him ,yet !!! I am going to sail my own voyage on my build, as there is some poor design elements that simply need to be addressed, then redesign the airframe ,so that UK sourced materials can be used. Cliff did say that after a while, I guess early 90,s that the Alloy tube used 1/2" x 3/4" x 0.035 6061-T6, was no longer available, so left it to other LMA builders to use what they could find ????? . Nick Onn was 25th at the WAC in France yesterday, with one more routine to go. I'll speak to him soon, Alan.