Volksplane 21 Highwing, Wood, CNC

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  1. Jul 18, 2018 #121

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    It would be just too sad to burry the CE, as it ´s a gorgeous plane concept.
     
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    The day the Neirrh leaves my garage I'll start on the CE. ...it's a simple matter of build space. ;)
     
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    So how far has the Neirrh grown so far?
     
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    ...not very far :ermm:

    I don't think I've touched it since the Waiex kit showed up. ...but the Waiex is (just about) finished so I can get back to work (soon) on my own projects :)
     
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    Please refresh my memory, what is the CE?

    By the way I love your designs...
     
  6. Jul 19, 2018 #126

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    I've mentioned the CE in a few threads but the HBA search function isn't cooperating today so I can't find a link.

    The CE, ("Columbus Explorer", ...named for a small town in New Mexico, not Christopher) is an part 103 ultralight designed around the CNC, tab and slot idea. ...kind of like an Afford-A-Plane but much better designed and kind of like a TEAM AreoMax but much simpler.

    It'll be ideal for guys like me and Erkki who are too tall (and in my case, also too wide ;) ) for most homebuilt ultralights.
     
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    Any thread for this yet? Would love to see what you are doing. Just curious.
     
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    Not yet, the CE is still just a pile of CNC files waiting to be cut.
     
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    Anything that could be built off shore like here on an island in the middle of Europe called Switzerland?
     
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    Like elevator, rudder, ribs etc...
     
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    There's a popular saying over here 'in the colonies', when someone is being too picky about something, you tell them "you ain't building a Swiss watch". :gig:

    I have to build one first (to find all the "Penrose steps") so I don't look like an idiot when parts don't go together. ...it's one thing to draw something on a computer, it's another thing to build it. I also have to fly one first to make sure I don't kill a Schweizare. ...since I'm Norse and your Swiss, we've technically been at war for 1,300+ years (If you died because I made a design mistake) the treaty of Kiel would be out the window and I'd (me) be at war with Switzerland. ...I don't think I'd win


    Airplane s#it takes time... :gig:
     
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    That little Piojo has to come first or you'll be at war with Los Angeles !
     
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    :roll::gig::roll::gig:
     
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    Do you had any further thoughts about this too?
     
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    VolksScout and VolksCamper, this really a neat idea, herewith we would have a viable successor of the Pietenpol series.

    This bird could be powered by a VW of any make, or everything else that could power an airplane as long as it stays within the weight and powerband of a VW.

    Lightweight to build and conceived even for tall pilots from the beginning.

    Heureka.
     
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    Seems like the original Piet ought to be ok with a VW and a redrive swinging a large prop.
     
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    How would the weight of that scheme compare to the original Ford engine and prop?


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    Quite a bit lighter. I''ve seen a figure of 350 lbs. For a model A without the bell housing etc. Not sure if that includes flywheel. Piets are often flown with Corvair engines. Those are over 200 lbs. With a VW it might need a longer motor mount.
     
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    Yup, that is why I asked. The VW would be well forward and might redically change the looks. Even moving the wing to help could alter the looks significantly.


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    Moving the wing up would mean the c.g. would have to go a little further forward too. If it went far enough, you might have to enlarge the tail slightly, particularly with a large prop.

    I think the Corvair Piets already have somewhat longer noses.
     

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