TURBINE - WHICH WILL PRODUCE ENERGY - AND PROPULSION

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Razorshark

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Custom-made propeller(blades) where one of more blades are of magnet (and metals)

Constant electricity to prop, so it spins magnetism inside turbine - to other propellers - and they keep get stronger and stronger like JET TURBINE

Inside the tube (turbine) will be other componets and tubes witch will take and convert to FREE ELECTRICITY

- you also get probally a jet turbine?

Will this work - if not as a patent idea :D
 

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Sounds like perpetual motion, which is not patentable... because it's not possible.
 

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I've been making a living using an Argon plasma arc for too many years to let one get anywhere close to my propeller. When your prop gets hit by lightning let us know the torque/rpm produced.
 

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how can it not be possible to get a fan rolling by setting a arc of lightning to it when it hits magnet or metal, it will rotate- and produce magnetism and magnetic winds in the tube...

Its logic isnt it

Certainly. All those who tried and partially succeeded in the past were errant in there interpretation of the laws of physics thusly failing to account for the negative gravity waves associated with the phenomena and thusly floated away into the heavens with their various contraptions. I am not sure if the gasses expanding in their bodies would have caused them to explode when they floated beyond 60,000 feet or if they would have been frozen solid by then and merely floated into space forever propelled toward the area of least mass density?
 
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Whether one propels an airplane by changing the momentum of the air passing through the prop disc or by generating electricity by making conductors cross magnetic fields, conventional physics tells us the energy has to be put into the turning prop against the air drag of the blade or against the magnetic force developed on the conductors.

Energy out = Energy in - losses

which also means

Energy Out < Energy In

So, let's get into what energy source the OP is trying to grab energy from and how it will occur. The description is that the prop blades use up energy while the electricity present from an unknown source drives the prop around. We do not know where the energy to make the electricity is coming from, and we doubt it exists.

Now to Patent law. Filing a patent is supposed to be one's disclosure of an invention, and by filing the patent, gain protection for the invention. If one goes telling www.hba.com all about it before filing the patent, it is disclosed elsewhere and will neither receive a patent nor protect the author.

So, are you going to patent this gadget or tell us about it? If you tell us before filing the patent, the patent application should fail.

Those of us used to thinking about this stuff have already wondered how the energy balance will work out - drawing energy from thin air is an unknown to the rest of us. Now if you know something about an energy source the rest of us have never heard of, well, why are you talking to us?

Billski
 

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Whether one propels an airplane by changing the momentum of the air passing through the prop disc or by generating electricity by making conductors cross magnetic fields, conventional physics tells us the energy has to be put into the turning prop against the air drag of the blade or against the magnetic force developed on the conductors.

Energy out = Energy in - losses

which also means

Energy Out < Energy In

So, let's get into what energy source the OP is trying to grab energy from and how it will occur. The description is that the prop blades use up energy while the electricity present from an unknown source drives the prop around. We do not know where the energy to make the electricity is coming from, and we doubt it exists.

Now to Patent law. Filing a patent is supposed to be one's disclosure of an invention, and by filing the patent, gain protection for the invention. If one goes telling www.hba.com all about it before filing the patent, it is disclosed elsewhere and will neither receive a patent nor protect the author.

So, are you going to patent this gadget or tell us about it? If you tell us before filing the patent, the patent application should fail.

Those of us used to thinking about this stuff have already wondered how the energy balance will work out - drawing energy from thin air is an unknown to the rest of us. Now if you know something about an energy source the rest of us have never heard of, well, why are you talking to us?

Billski


Tesla said that there is enough energy in the "ether" that a small amount or the volume of the size of a cup of coffee to take care of our energy needs for millennia He just forgot to mention how we can extract it safely.
 

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Why even think that creating electric winds, which has motion in tube, will create holes or explosions??

This is impossible

Talking about explosions from this stems from a misunderstanding. The real danger is implosions. With propulsion of such potentially incalculable power, you must be very careful never to run it while the aircraft is unable to continue accelerating.

WHY? Because: F=MA. That means, of course, that M=F/A. If you apply such great force to an airframe and the acceleration is limited to near zero, the mass of the airframe approaches infinity. You could easily create a black hole on the surface of the earth, destroying it entirely.
 

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One of the things some of the builders don't want is ADS-B and other accouterments that come with a generator/alternator. So complexity may have more to do with that in the minds of those wanting simplicity. One reason that some still like magnetos for ignition. So if the engine requires a source of electricity it may become undesirable to those.

I lack a complete understanding of the regulations surrounding this but it is an issue for some.
 

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