Yes, even Cessna 172s can be made to ground loop. Took me a long time to figure out how pilots can do that. I finally found someone that could demonstrate it for me. Very interesting and informative with no damage. As they say, there is something to learn on every flight.as the resident glider expert at this thread,....little off topic but you brought it up....do gliders ground loop?
I’ve been keeping track, and VB is “almost always right 98 percent of the time.”...
I generally agree with what VB says 98% of the time and I see that Farfle handled everything with test pilot precision so this comment is out of date but I refuse to let it go as I have heard the same comment too many times by too many pilots. Flying the plane is not an acceptable solution to the problem. [/B]
Agree.If doing extended high speed taxi creates overwhelming odds that you will have a groundloop you should do more low speed taxi or fix the airplane. Flying the plane is not an acceptable solution to the problem.
Oh heavens, if I could only get my wife bamboozled like I got you guys in the bag...I’ve been keeping track, and VB is “almost always right 98 percent of the time.”
That is something that is messing with me. I have had EVs in my life forever, and am really good at estimating range. But aircraft are throwing me off.Congratulations, Farfle.
Was the battery charge consumed about what was expected?
practice your power off landings, then run it dry (or not enough to stay level) over the airport with a stop watchThat is something that is messing with me. I have had EVs in my life forever, and am really good at estimating range. But aircraft are throwing me off.
On a moto, half battery at halfway there means you are on the right track, but in an aircraft you burn so much power getting off the ground that all my range estimation in my monkey brain is saying "HOLY **** YOU NEED TO BE ON THE GROUND NOW" because power is being burned so fast. But then you pull it back to cruise and its NBD. In that case you could be at 20% battery and halfway there and be just fine.
Flying the pattern @500ft used about 11Ah 7 of which is burned before the crosswind turn. (116AH total capacity).
Doing "crow hops" on a new plane has been a point of discussion for a long time. As VB describes, crow hops are really an advanced maneuver that requires good pilot skills to accomplish safely. I've heard new pilots say that they would crow hop their plane because they weren't sure that they could fly it. This is backwards....if you aren't confident flying the plane then you probably aren't ready to fly it in a manner that puts you at higher risk for an incident.Oh heavens, if I could only get my wife bamboozled like I got you guys in the bag...
The intention of my previous comment about being in the "Danger Zone" doing high speed taxi wasn't about the airplane being adjusted incorrectly. Obviously if there is any sort of control problem then you need to fix that instead of flying the airplane.
However, the transition between rolling and flying, tail coming up or going back down, and especially the gyroscopic propeller forces that turn that nose-up or nose-down movement into an uncommanded yawing movement, make the time during the takeoff and landing roll more prone to groundloop or straying off the runway. So extending that time, by keeping the airplane in that middle realm btween taxiing and flying for longer than it has to be... is in fact raising the chances of a problem because of that increased time.
I am nobody's example of a test pilot or a professional pilot, but speaking only for myself, my personal method for a completely unknown aircraft is that I take off and fly down the runway at 10-15 feet, and do an immediate "full 3 axis control" verification.how do you know it is rigged properly?
Because you've checked and verified the wing/tail incidence, control surface deflections, etc. If the plane is as designed then it will fly as designed. If it's an original design that has never flown then it may be appropriate to ask a real test pilot to fly it first. I'm not saying that you should not do "crow hops", I'm saying it's an advanced maneuver that requires requisite skills.how do you know it is rigged properly?
How does the deck angle of your Belite compare to as-designed? It may be that your elevator has exactly enough authority as it's supposed to but because of longer gear legs/bigger tires your tail wheel doesn't reach the ground in the designed 'three point' attitude.Not quite enough authority on the elevator to flare for a proper three-point landing.