The engineer / designer

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    The posts below led to this new thread to share information about designers behind E-AB and ultralight / hang gliders.


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    Copied from another thread:

     
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    Neil Loving designed this:
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    Went back to school at the age of 40 to get his engineering degree.
    His autobiography is worth the read.
     
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    The MacDonald S-20/21 was designed by the aerodynamicist for the Lear Fan.
     
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    And another notable graduate of Cass Technical High School in Detroit.
     
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    Jim Wickham of Seattle worked as an engineer for Boeing after WWII. On his own time, he designed and built six aircraft of his own design, designated Wickham A through F. All were of alumimum construction

    Here are the Wickham A (aka "Bluebird") and Wickham B:

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    Both were four-seat aircraft. The "A" first flew in 1955. Seattle EAA'er Tim Davies restored the "A" in the '90s; it is currently parked in the hangar opposite to mine. Tim also earned his A&P ticket in the process. He does the Condition Inspections on my Fly Baby.

    The "B" was a rarity in homebuilding, a twin. It was similar in appearance to the Aero Commander, but had fixed landing gear. In the early 2000, Ross Mahon bought this airplane from a museum and restored it.

    The next series of airplanes were small single-seat fun machines using VW engines. Here' s typical example, the Wickham Model E "Sunbird":
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    Wickham did all his own flight testing. He took the Sunbird up for spin testing, and the plane would not recover. He ended up bailing out...becoming a member of the Caterpillar Club at age 68.

    His last project was a twin, intended for two Mazda engines. The design was similar to his earlier twin. His health prevented him from finishing the airplane. After his death, it was given to EAA Chapter 26, where a couple of members are working to complete it. Chapter 26 is in Seattle, and probably has a higher proportion of engineers than most chapters.....

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    Gene Turner was a design engineer for several companies, working on helicopters and fixed wing aircraft. He later joined the FAA, and helped with the certification of the Lockheed L-1011. He designed and built several aircraft of his own. His single-seat T-40 was the runner-up to the Flybaby in the EAA Design Contest. Plans and construction articles were published in Sport Aviation, and you can still find them in the EAA archives online. He went on the design a two-seat variant, the T-40A, and an ultralight, the Mariah.

    Another cool tidbit is that he qualified as a fighter pilot in the P-47, but the war ended right before he was scheduled to deploy.
     
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    Michel Colomban also designed Ban Bi and variants like MCR-4.
     
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    Stan Hall of Cherokee glider fame worked for Lockheed and headed the YO-3A project
     
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    For the most part the planes that the engineers have designed have a complex element. Sheet metal, bonded structure, fancy shapes, using materials different. The rag and tube designs all seem to be the non engineer, although they were no dummies, and some for sure had some engineer checking. Pitts, Wittman, Steen, Stolp, Baking, Powell among others.
     
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    John Thorpe also designed the Lockheed P2-V Neptune
     
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    Does Burt Rutan qualify for this list of professionals who did some homebuilts, or does he belong on the list of homebuilders who did some professional stuff?
     
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    IIRC, Burt was a pro before he released the VV plans. Harrison Aero can confirm or correct.


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    Burt Rutan attended CalPoly then went work at Edwards and challenging and dangerous things. During all this he was doing original design RC and starting the VV with his car top wind tunnel.
     
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    Burt Rutan worked for Jim Bede during the design of the BD-5. IIRC, the change from the V-tail to the cruciform tail was his idea.

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    I'm thinking he may have been involve with the stabilator on the Comanche also
     
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    Thorp designed the stabilator for the Cherokee, but if I am nt mistaken the Comanche came out slightly before the Cherokee? So if Thorp's first Piper project was the Cherokee then perhaps someone else did the Comanche.

    EDIT: From this page: http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft performance/Piper/11.htm


    Piper Piper PA-24 Comanche history, performance and specifications

    In 1954, Bill Piper was looking for a design to compete with the Bonanza. The engineers at Piper were busy with other projects at the time, so Bill Piper asked his friend Al Mooney if Piper could buy the new Mooney MK-20 design that Mooney had not yet started producing. Al wouldn't sell the design, so Bill Piper asked Al Mooney to come up with a totally new design. Al submitted a design to Piper that was an all metal 4 place monocoque construction with retractable gear, a 180 HP Lycoming, and a stabilator in place of an elevator. The stabilator was a new design, an all flying horizontal tail.
     
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    Pete Buck worked for John Monnett before and while he worked at the Skunk Works.
     
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    I don't know Al Mooney genesis of Cherokee all flying elevator naming as stabilator, but Mitchell named elevons on his B10 Mitchellwing as stabilators, cause they are upside down airfoil and producing stabilising moment.
     

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