Some "OLD TIMER's" , attempting to Fly

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Bille Floyd

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Here's a film, on some early gliders ; back in the 20's.
It ends with a guy's Death ; so maybe stop the film
several seconds before the ending !


Bille

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don january

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Talk about hanging it out in the wind. Even as old as it is it sure looks nice.
 

Bille Floyd

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Oh thank goodness, I saw the thread title about old timers, and I thought he was talking about Pops and Rockiedog...
After reading your post ; i tried to change the title.
No luck, with that --------------------- sorry !
But it won't happen again ; i'll be more careful , henceforth.

BTW : For me --- that film would have bin , "just Fine" ; without
the last :30 seconds

Bille
 

don january

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To this day it seems to me that would be the perfect first flight. Get hand launched and trade airspeed for altitude. I got thinking of the assembly dis assembly of the craft and see it takes a team effort to enjoy that flight.
 

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I just recently saw some video of an SG-38 primary glider. Either a replica, or a restoration, not sure. But, it was very cool. And, no one died.
 

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If you look very closely at the guy who died, after the launch and just after the glider passes by the camera, you can see him stroking the stick back and forth very strongly in the pitch direction, but the elevators aren't moving at all. The pitch controls are not functioning. If he'd cut off the tow the moment he discovered the problem, he might have survived, as the airplane would've stabilized at its stick-free trim speed and glided to the ground. A shame. He didn't need to die.

The rest of the films are a lot of fun. I can't tell for sure, but aren't some of those at the Wasserkuppe in Germany?
 

Bille Floyd

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If you look very closely at the guy who died, after the launch and just after the glider passes by the camera, you can see him stroking the stick back and forth very strongly in the pitch direction, but the elevators aren't moving at all. The pitch controls are not functioning.

...
I put the video, at 8:34, and let it play to 8:40
then repeat ; over & over & ... ...

The arm movements might be, (Random) , but
at 8:37 the arm & elevator are centered,
and at 8:39 , i see forward stick and down elevator.

For me , there ain't enough evidence for either view
point , (induced oscillation, or broken EL connection) ?_!!

Bille
 

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It looks like he wasn't belted in. Maybe a bump put him out of position? Seems like there's a lot going on with the elevator right after the launch. Maybe there's some snatch in the controls? Seems like a few of the other gliders earlier in the video also had their elevators moving a lot too.
 
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