Can anyone shed light on this little shrimp?

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    This little guy was one of the static displays at Airventure 2013.
    Can anyone identify the thing, or better still, shed some light on it?
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    It is seriously tiny.
    Me brain then started wondering if a wee airplane of this size could be of any use?
    Your thoughts?
     
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    Not sure on the maker but at 5' 4" it's probably to big for me:gig:
     
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    The N number is owned but not applied to an aircraft. Hard to tell the true size but looks like a Smith Miniplane with the bottom wing shortened and a way too heavy Rotec engine hung on the nose with a very small prop. Smiths are small, the 0-200 powered one at my airport is about shoulder hight while the Starduster 1 is at my head and I am 5-11. Looks like he made a pretty engine mount for a static display.
     
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    Maybe a "Baby"-Baby great Lake's.:gig: If it ever flew I bet it was a hand full. It's got a bit of hanger rash on top left wing.:cry: Cool plane thou
     
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    It's neither a Smith Miniplane of baby Great Lakes. Looks like a parade float to me.


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    Definitely not a Fisher.

    Whatever it is, it was deregistered before 1989, when N1EA was assigned to a Kolb Firestar.

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    It looks like a one-off, ~60% scale Stearman, single place, mostly all wood construction.
     
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    That's not a Rotec, either...too small and too few cylinders.
     
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    What about one of the Rag Wing design's?
     
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    I'm not aware of any kit or plans biplanes that small.

    The paint job may be "Stearman-ish", but it's not a Stearman replica, with the shorter bottom wing and angled interplane struts; the tail shape is wrong, too.

    It looks like there's a sign in front of it, presumably telling what it is. Some kind of one-off, no doubt.

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    My guess mix is Smith top wing with a Baby Great Lakes fuselage with cabana struts modified to fit the smith wing and modified tail. BGL bottom wing.
     
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    It looks more and more like a modified smith miniplane with a Lawrence GPU engine. He may have increased the span on the top wing for extra wt/proper c.g.
     
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    It may simply be a one-off, custom design. There are a lot of those hanging out in hangar corners, especially from the 1950's-60's.
     
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    Or maybe a Sig Liberty Sport with a straight wing and a few mods?

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    (But I vote for one-off.)
     
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    Swept wing for the Liberty Sport and it is a one off. Borrowed from the biplane forum.

    I have flown both the Liberty Sport and the Liberty Model B. Both airplanes were built using fuselages, horizontal stabilizers and elevators, and control sticks from an Aeronca Champ 7AC. The vertical stabilizer and rudder are from Piper Pacers. The landing gears are from Cessna 140/170. The Liberty Sport had parts from 17 different aircraft. The wings are originals designed by Liberty Lloyd and built by his brother, Orville.They have aluminum ribsusing the M6 airfoil, mounted on wood spars.The Liberty Sport was flown in the early 1960's, powered by a 150HP Lycoming FWF from a Pacer. The Model B had a 190HP Lycoming 0-490. I made the initial test flight on the Model B on July 12, 1989, and flew off the first 12 hours. In late November 1998 I delivered the Sport to its new owner, Ralph Belden, in Yarrington, Nevada. Although the Sport was a very nice airplane, I really enjoyed the Model B. It soloed from the rear rather than the front as in the Sport. It had a sliding canopy over the rear only. It was such a treat to fly. I had been flying my Pitts, so the first landing in the B I nearly overshot the airport as the B would actually glide like an airplane rather than a streamlined crowbar. Although not designed for aerobatics, I did basic maneuvers in both airplanes. The B is owned by Roger Lloyd, and is in Arizona. Plans were never made available for either design. The Lloyds are personal friends, and are now well into their 90's. Great people, great airplanes. I'd love to fly the B again someday.
     
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    I asked somewhere online about the OP's plane (I thought it was here but maybe not) around 1.5 Oshkoshes ago and got an answer pretty quickly. From what I remember it's a one-off, built to be about 3/4 the size of a popular 50's-60's home built biplane (Smith Miniplane? EAA Biplane?) and powered by some APU radial. What's not easily apparent from the pics is just how tiny it is. If you parked it next to a Pitts S-1 the size difference would be about the same as that Pitts next to a Stearman.
     
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    Please tell me that it's not meant to be man-carrying?
     
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    Couuld be a Lawrance radial engine, 37HP, 5 cyl., was used as the APU generator on the B-29.
     
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