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Bill-Higdon

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There is something strange about that article.

"Then came the decision on how to get the airworthiness certificate. Loes had done far more than a 50% restoration and felt eligible to apply for a new serial number and, potentially, light sport status. But, Viking Aircraft wanted to sell new plans to him to support that path. He also preferred to avoid potential, future liability by keeping the original builder’s name (Henry Olsen) associated with the plane. Thus, he kept the serial number (and N-number) and received the new airworthiness certificate in December 2020. He also succeeded in obtaining a repairman certificate for the restored airplane through an obscure, but legal, process."

How can you get the repairman certificate if not the builder and not applying for a new serial number and why keep the plane under the original builder's name "to avoid potential, future liability" if you've rebuilt more than half the plane?
 

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How can you get the repairman certificate if not the builder and not applying for a new serial number and why keep the plane under the original builder's name "to avoid potential, future liability" if you've rebuilt more than half the plane?
According to FAA 8900.1:

The FAA is allowed "to issue a Repairman Certificate to one single individual identified as the primary builder" (That's cut and pasted straight out of the 8900.1 manual)

The primary builder doesn't have to build any percentage of the airplane. He only needs to be identified as the primary builder.

Nobody received a repairman certificate for this plane so the restorer identified himself as primary builder and applied. Voila !

I'd buy a homebuilt that already has an airworthiness certificate for that reason. The dataplate has the original builders name on it, not the restorer's name.
 

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When the Kitplanes article said "already built" I understood that to mean a completed and flying homebuilt, not a project. Why wouldn't the original builder have received a repairman's certificate?
 

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Why wouldn't the original builder have received a repairman's certificate?
Didn't want or need it?

Applying for a repairman certificate is not part of the airplane paperwork process.

If I build a plane I might get a repairman certificate just for the novelty of having it but I don't really need it.
 

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I like the Cygnet canopy clamshell canopy and was wondering if it is made of Lexan which is very flexible and therefore a flap wrap. (no compound curves) Benefits are low cost and easier emergency egress. Anyone have info on this?
 

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The one I saw was a flat wrap windshield. N440CH, completed by our EAA chapter about 5 years ago. I did the first 30 minute test flight. Perfectly good flying and docile little airplane.

The hinge ran down the center of the windshield, and the flat pieces of plexiglas or lexan swing forward and upward in the hinge. No compound curves in the transparent part.

If I were building or owning a cygnet, I would find some way to make a one piece formed or "blown" canopy and find a different way to get in and out of the airplane. The canopy and ingress/egress is the only significant shortcoming on the whole airplane IMHO.
 

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The one I saw was a flat wrap windshield. N440CH, completed by our EAA chapter about 5 years ago. I did the first 30 minute test flight. Perfectly good flying and docile little airplane.

The hinge ran down the center of the windshield, and the flat pieces of plexiglas or lexan swing forward and upward in the hinge. No compound curves in the transparent part.

If I were building or owning a cygnet, I would find some way to make a one piece formed or "blown" canopy and find a different way to get in and out of the airplane. The canopy and ingress/egress is the only significant shortcoming on the whole airplane IMHO.
That, and legroom for full size pilots.

I considered buying a nice example. The owner had two, one he built, the other he bought. The second airplane won an award or two.

In the end, I decided I was too old to clImb into the airplane, it didn't really have enough shoulder room, and definitely not enough leg room.

I designed a modification to move the rudder pedals without terrible surgery that I passed in to the owner. He made a copy of the drawings for me.
 
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