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WBNH

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Does the board have any friends in Argentina? Is anyone familiar with the BA-5 Gurí? Their website appears to have not been updated in quite a while, making me wonder if the project is dead. I'd love to find updated information, perhaps flight video, of this project. Remarkably little available online.

I think the U.S., particularly the LSA training market, could really use a design like this. With some economy of scale, if some limited mass production could be achieved, why couldn't this be a sub $30K aircraft to replace all the CTLS's and other $100K designs in LSA training centers? Retail price on the HKS engine is sub 10K. Wholesale must be cheaper. My training center uses Cubs, and while venerable and perhaps ideal to learn seat of the pants flying, I'm leaning toward preferring side by side seating.

Perhaps an upward firing BRS instead of downward could be an advantage, I'm not sure, and I'm also not sure where their 33 lbs of baggage could go, assuming the space behind the seats is mostly boom tube, BRS, and support structure, but it sure would be a nice evening cruiser and LSA trainer. (Might be safe to assume baggage is only for an aircraft not equipped with BRS.)

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Barron

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They are still in business, I just spoke with Alberto, the owner of the company. The reason for the lack of new information is due to the fact that a few months ago there was a tornado that touched down and destroyed their building, they are currently moving their business to a new location. They have designed a new carbon fiber aircraft with tricycle gear, flaps, more power and a bigger engine. They expect to be active with the new model in 6 to 7 months.


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Thanks Barron. I recall some years ago, when Capella offered the Javelin, they developed it into a two seater similar to the Guri...called it the T-Rex I think, but I also think the company went away before the idea was fully realized. I also don't think Capella used a composite shell around the occupants, opting for traditional tube and fabric.

EDIT - I stand corrected - internet research indicate it was the T-Raptor and it was tandem, not side by side.
http://avbidaircraftauctions.com/our-inventory/2008-capella-t-raptor/

Please try to learn if there is any plan to market the design in the US...either as an Argentinian Export, or built under license in the U.S.

Orion...I love simplicity. As a side note - a design similar to this would be great for EAAers to collectively work on and share components. Meaning, if there's a welded cage around the occupants, one specialist could turn out a few to sell to fellows without kitting a whole aircraft. Another could probably turn out firewalls, another boom tubes with all the fittings, etc. A small network of individuals capitalizing on their specialties could "kit" a similar craft in five or six subsections, to be purchased independently by the builder.

At which point would buying up pre-constructed components violate a 51% rule and prevent you from being able to have the repairman cert on the craft?
 
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Dana

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That is a nice little airplane. I note +6/-4g, enough for basic aerobatics. Wish there were some pictures of the cockpit. Anybody know what pricing looks like?

-Dana

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Barron

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WBNH,

Got an email from Alberto. He stated that when they feel they have adequate production, they will seek a partner in the U.S.

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Thanks Barron. I recall some years ago, when Capella offered the Javelin, they developed it into a two seater similar to the Guri...called it the T-Rex I think, but I also think the company went away before the idea was fully realized. I also don't think Capella used a composite shell around the occupants, opting for traditional tube and fabric.

EDIT - I stand corrected - internet research indicate it was the T-Raptor and it was tandem, not side by side.
2008 Capella T-Raptor « « AvBid Aircraft Auctions AvBid Aircraft Auctions

Please try to learn if there is any plan to market the design in the US...either as an Argentinian Export, or built under license in the U.S.

Orion...I love simplicity. As a side note - a design similar to this would be great for EAAers to collectively work on and share components. Meaning, if there's a welded cage around the occupants, one specialist could turn out a few to sell to fellows without kitting a whole aircraft. Another could probably turn out firewalls, another boom tubes with all the fittings, etc. A small network of individuals capitalizing on their specialties could "kit" a similar craft in five or six subsections, to be purchased independently by the builder.

At which point would buying up pre-constructed components violate a 51% rule and prevent you from being able to have the repairman cert on the craft?
 

Barron

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Dana,

I have asked for additional photos and if they have them I will put them here. The price of the existing aircraft kit is $11,000 USD minus engine and instrumentation.


That is a nice little airplane. I note +6/-4g, enough for basic aerobatics. Wish there were some pictures of the cockpit. Anybody know what pricing looks like?

-Dana

A truly wise man never plays leapfrog with a unicorn.
 
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