Aerobatic Monoplanes?

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kudo

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I've been looking around and decided I'll probably start building an aerobatic homebuilt in a year or so when my schedule really frees up. I've so far picked between the dr109 and the Laser Z-2300 by york but I can't really distinguish between either. It looks like they use the same engines, same specs, same weight, etc? If anyone has had experience with one (or both) could you pitch in? I live in Central Colorado so if anyone knows where both might be near me I'd like to check it out.

The only thing I've thought about was that the visibility out of the DR109 at least on takeoff might be better than the Z-2300 because of the lower wing. I was also thinking about single place as well but I know 'less' about the Dr107 vs the Z-200. Also if ones significantly easier to build that's also a huge plus, however from what I've seen the z-2300 uses some composites, but its not a drastic difference and I'm used to composites anyway.

By the way I'm right at 5'11" so I should fit in all of them (dr107/109, 200/2300) right?

Thoughts?
 

djschwartz

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I've been looking around and decided I'll probably start building an aerobatic homebuilt in a year or so when my schedule really frees up. I've so far picked between the dr109 and the Laser Z-2300 by york but I can't really distinguish between either. It looks like they use the same engines, same specs, same weight, etc? If anyone has had experience with one (or both) could you pitch in? I live in Central Colorado so if anyone knows where both might be near me I'd like to check it out.

The only thing I've thought about was that the visibility out of the DR109 at least on takeoff might be better than the Z-2300 because of the lower wing. I was also thinking about single place as well but I know 'less' about the Dr107 vs the Z-200. Also if ones significantly easier to build that's also a huge plus, however from what I've seen the z-2300 uses some composites, but its not a drastic difference and I'm used to composites anyway.

By the way I'm right at 5'11" so I should fit in all of them (dr107/109, 200/2300) right?

Thoughts?
I fly a Stephens Akro, on which the "Z" is based. It is an awesome aircraft. I'd suggest joining the IAC and looking into what folks are flying in competitions. I think you'll find there are far more Laser/Z/Zivko/Edge types flying than the DRs. I'm in the process of building a new symmetrical airfoil wing for my Stephens, which is what Leo Loudenslager did with his to make the first Laser, and what makes the Z different from the original Stephens.

Dave
 

djschwartz

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Oh, and the mid wing is not much of an issue for visibility on approach and landing for the single seater. Seeing over the nose is the bigger issue. I don't know if the DR is any different. And it may be more of an issue for a two-seat aircraft where you fly from the rear seat. I haven't flown anything like that in the aerobatic family.

Dave
 

kudo

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I've seen both the dr107 and the z-200 in competitions. No two seaters though, do you think the extra seat is worth it?
 

djschwartz

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I've seen both the dr107 and the z-200 in competitions. No two seaters though, do you think the extra seat is worth it?
Doug Sowder, current president of the IAC and a good friend of mine, flies an Extra 300L (two seat) in IAC Advanced. The extra seat allows you to get instruction or at least tips and advice in your own aircraft and also have some fun outside of competition giving rides or going for a $100 hamburger with a friend. Very few of us will ever have the skill to outfly the capabilities of the modern two seaters. The only real down side is the added cost. Their versatility makes the two seaters considerably more expensive to buy, and two seaters are almost always equipped with 6 cylinder engines where the single seaters can still perform extremely well on a 4.

Dave
 
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