# WWI SE5 built from "Replica Plans"

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#### jumpinjan

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Does "Replica Plans" (company name) still exist and sell the SE5 drawing package? They are very, very nice flying replicas.
I think they were located in Canada.

#### jumpinjan

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Don,
Thanks for the reply. I have the Jim Kiger's (Replicraft) SE5 plans (detailed drawings of the original SE5) and I didn't know about RFA's yahoo group.
Here is more background info on this SE5:
[FONT=arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] One 85 hp Continental engine
Cruise speed: 90 mph
Empty weight: 790 lbs.
Span: 22' 10"
Length: 14' 4"
Height: 7' 2"
(Original span 26' 7", Length 20' 11", Height 9' 6")
[/SIZE][/FONT]Dan McGowan and "Gogi" Goguillot of Yarrow, B.C. designed this 7/8 scale replica of the famous WW1 British Fighter. While changes had to be made to accommodate a full size pilot, and an alternate engine chosen when designing the scaled down version as an amateur built sport plane, the replica does resemble the original.

It is represented as a much modified, scaled down sport plane, and not a true replica of the original fighter.

Use of a modern 4 cylinder 85 hp Continental engine required an ingenious cowling to simulate the original water cooled 200 hp geared Hispano engine, but provides a practical solution for every day operation.

Jan

#### steveair2

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Jan,
Thats a nice looking SE5A. Got to be a blast to fly.
Good luck finding plans. Have you looked at the Flitzer?
www.flitzerbiplane.com

Steve

#### jumpinjan

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I have found the source of the SE5 drawings. They will reply back to me with a price when they get new copying estimates.
(I just missed the sale of the drawings, on Barnstormers for $100) Jan #### cluttonfred ##### Well-Known Member HBA Supporter Reviving an old thread just to point out that a number of John Currie's Currie Wots were factory built for the old movie "The Blue Max" and their appearance tweaked to represent different WWI planes. The SE5a is the easiest of them all...slight changes to the outline of the rudder, a headrest a cowling that looks like it's hiding a radiator, big wheels and a fake Lewis gun makes a very passable "50 foot replica." Currie Wot plans are still available from Britain's LAA (ex-PFA). I have the Wot plans...very detailed, lots of fiddly bits, but the result is quite spectacular. See a quick comparison below--this particular one went all out with wire-braced center section, long exhaust popes, etc. but you can see how even a stock Wot could be made to play the part. #### Attachments • 119.2 KB Views: 2,103 #### Autodidact ##### Well-Known Member I think the Currie Wot makes a great Currie Wot :grin:! I have also wondered; since the Isaac's Fury is a Currie Wot derivative, would the Fury's vertical fin and rudder fit (and work) on the Currie Wot? This would give the Wot a much nicer vertical tail shape IMHO. I also would like (someday) to design a fairly accurate SE5 replica for the Rover V8, but that would be predicated on a really nice conversion for that engine. I have some ideas, but its taking a while to get around to it. And then there's the red w/silver wings Sopwith Snipe replica with no guns powered by an uncowled Lycoming radial I'd like to have, and..... #### cluttonfred ##### Well-Known Member HBA Supporter I am quite fond of the Currie Wot just as it is myself, I just wish it were about 100 lbs lighter to meet European microlight rules as a single seater, or had two seats. In fact, hmm, listed gross weight is 900 lbs, empty. Built it light and simple, minimal finishing, move the rear-sloping cabane strut to go back from the firewall to the main spar instead of the rear spar, put diagonal bracing wires in there on one side only and you'd have a pretty respectable DH60 Moth lookalike. There might not be enough space up forward for more then a jump seat, no dual controls, but it would still be great fun. Sigh, now I need to get out my Currie Wot plans and take some measurements. #### snojetscott ##### Member Hi everyone. I'm new to the site and was hoping I might find some help or maybe get some information. I recently was given a Se5a replica project that I believe is 3/4 scale. I got it from a guy, who had it given to him by a buddy of his, who purchased it from a museum that apparently closed. He said I could have it if I picked it up within 2 days, otherwise it was going on the burn pile. (Good thing I didn't hear about the plane 2 days later!) Anyways, I saved the plane but it didn't come with any plans or any paperwork. I'm trying to find out if there is anyone out there that might know enough about these replicas to maybe know which plans this kit was built off of, or if anyone might be able to tell me anything by looking at it or seeing pictures. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! #### Alby ##### Member Hi Scott, You have an SE5a from replica plans (a modified Currie Wot) Lucky man. I built one 35 years ago and still fly it having done about 950nhrs on an O200 engine. A most delightful aircraft to fly. My friend built a Currie Wot at the same time and took dimensions off the SE5a plans when some of his were not clear. I had one short flight in his Vw powered model. The SE5a is semi aerobatic, 5 turn spins in slow motion with receovery under half a turn, stalls are very mild. Take your hands and feet off the controls in any attitude, power on or off and it sorts itself out and flys away GIVEN THE CofG IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE When you get your plans you may note that the ribs and pedals are different to what you have. I would recommend the brakes, also the axle is too light, another tube inside is still not quite enough.Ensure there is sufficient clearance where the push rod connects to the elevator horn. I had to carve out some wood on one side to clear a safety pin locking the clevis pin. After a renovation some time ago the clevis pin was connected from the other side and in flight the safety pin was gently rubbed undone allowing the clevis pin to come out. After a great shock of adrenalin I managed to control the pitch with small adjustment of the throttle, managed a rough landing from a very long approach with a good bounce but no damage. The Albatros D5a microlight in the photo I designed myself as a sparring partner for the SE5. It has now flown 40 hours on a 120hp Toyota engine. I am sure you will enjoy the SE5a Alby #### mtgunner ##### Member Have any of you guys found plans for the Replica Plans SE-5A. I just picked up the partially built kit from a guy and I need some plans. mtgunner #### plncraze ##### Well-Known Member HBA Supporter The Dec. 1972 issue of Air Progress magazine has a pilot report on the 7/8 SE-5A done by Budd Davisson. He liked it but said it was a tight fit. #### SteveInArlington ##### Member Have any of you guys found plans for the Replica Plans SE-5A. I just picked up the partially built kit from a guy and I need some plans. mtgunner Jim Kiger sells them at Replicraft: About Replicraft Reasonable, high quality drawings. He may be getting out of the business, so don't waste a bunch of time. #### wiloows5050 ##### Well-Known Member Log Member I have found the source of the SE5 drawings. They will reply back to me with a price when they get new copying estimates. (I just missed the sale of the drawings, on Barnstormers for$100)
Jan
I have found the source of the SE5 drawings. They will reply back to me with a price when they get new copying estimates.
(I just missed the sale of the drawings, on Barnstormers for \$100)
Jan
Jan

Did you ever acquire the SE-5a drawings. I purchase a set this weekend but they were missing a couple of pages. They were from replica plans in Richmond BC.
If you have the information I’d like to it from you so I can complete the set.

thanks

Don

#### bmcj

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Span: 22' 10"
Length: 14' 4"
Height: 7' 2"
(Original span 26' 7", Length 20' 11", Height 9' 6")
Something is wrong with these numbers. The span to length ratio on the replica is way off from that of the original. I assume there is a typo in there somewhere.

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#### wiloows5050

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Here’s a photo from the fist page. I actually found these in Fresno.

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#### bmcj

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Here’s a photo from the fist page. I actually found these in Fresno.
Sorry, I had my own typo in my post (since corrected). The point I was making is if you compare the scale numbers to the original numbers, the length is reduced to 68% but the span is only reduced to 85%. It seems like the scale fuselage is too short by comparison.

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#### wiloows5050

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I wonder if that is for the weight reduction. for a change of class. It's harder to reduce the wing span than fuselage length although it makes weight and balance tougher. The rudder size might have not been reduce as much to help compensate for the shorter fuselage. I can't check as that is one of the two pages I'm missing.

#### Sonny Furman

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I had started to build a full scale SE-5 and had completely engineered and assembled a Buick all aluminum V8 195 HP, along with a custom redrive of 1:6 that bolts directly to the Buick bellhousing. With advancing age and health problems I have now decided to abandon the project, so if anyone contemplating building a scale or near scale SE5 and wanting an engine that very closely replicates the original they can contact me for more details. I am letting this go for less than the material cost.
Sonny Furman, Col. USAF ret. sonnyfurman (at G mail)

#### Tiger Tim

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Something is wrong with these numbers. The span to length ratio on the replica is way off from that of the original. I assume there is a typo in there somewhere.
I don’t know if it’s this particular replica but I believe one of the popular ‘scaled’ SE5a replicas was basically a Currie Wot with different fuselage formers, wing tips, and tail.