I never thought they were a good value. Caveat Emptor.Ok, I've bought several ultralights brand new over the years(Quicksilvers mainly) and, despite the great engineering that went into them, the cost was FAIR. Not cheap, not outrageous, but fair. And simply because of their relative simplicity they built rather fast. These kits (both Adventura and Searay) aren't too complicated or even use materials any better than a modern ultralight aircraft, boat hull notwithstanding. Dacron skins, bolted together aluminum tubing, engines hanging out back in the breeze...no real difference at all. I honestly do not see why they demand such a huge premium. Again, this isn't saying all kits from all makes are overpriced, not at all, just these two stick in my craw so to speak. It's why I started this thread, to hope someone could explain to me how or why these companies need to overcharge so much. It can't possibly be helping their bushiness. The Adventura has gone through many owners and that really doesn't surprise me at all. Searay is a more advanced version, but it too has jacked the price to match that. If these companies really can't do any better, than so be it. I wasn't interested in them, just sad to see a decent product price itself out of business.