What to do with $135,000? Sonex jet kit available next year!

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    I ran over to Sonex yesterday to check out the test airframes 1 and 2...simply awesome. John is so proud of the jet and I expect it to be a major hit at the show. Jet number 2 has a really cool military-ish paint scheme that just makes it look like a mini A-10 to me (if the A-10 had a v-tail and single engine). If I had $135k to drop on a kit...I'd be in line!!
     
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    I would like to see that paint scheme. If they display it and someone happens to be at Oshkosh, please post some photos.
    Any estimations on how long will it take for this technology to become somewhat affordable?
     
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    From John's Facebook page...

    JSX2-2.jpg
     
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    Look a lot better than their prop version aircraft. Would look even better if they put the engine inside the fuse.
     
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    Nice! Thanks for posting the photo.
    I agree with Av168, though - If they can eventually integrate the engine into the fuselage that would be a huge move. I think they are really on to something here.
     
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    Just another plane I can't afford..
     
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    I'm missing the point. Except for a very efficient way to turn money into noise, what's the point of such an airframe? It isn't fast for a jet and it sips fuel like a German scores at world cups...
     
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    It's not possible to make a practical case for it (especially given the limitations the FAA will impose on it). But I'm sure there will be people with a lot of money who want to "own a jet", and this will scratch that itch. As Sonex LLC puts it " Don’t ask us about service ceilings, range or baggage... SubSonex is all about taking a thrilling rocket ride around the neighborhood!"
     
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    Does that mean that this plane will not be popular with the Argentines?
     
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    ...or two engines, one in each wing root.
     
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    I imagine there's method to their madness when it comes to their engine just being stuck up top there. A few years down the road when someone builds a little turbofan or something, this Sonex will be ready for it. Maybe you could stick a little tandem electric pod up there like on that one Cri Cri, or somebody will make a ducted fan and stick it up there. I bet there's even some kind of clever mount going on under that fairing that will let you adjust the position of the engine based on the weight of the power plant choice and maybe even your own weight at the time you built it. Look at all the engines you can't put in a BD-5 then look at this little thing, I'm thinking Sonex is on to something here.

    Also, look at those tiny duallies on the main gear! What are those, tail wheels with tiny brakes on them?
     
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    Looks like a different version of a BD5J
     
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    You mean like the Paris jet. What is the point? It will then burn twice as much fuel and less than 20% faster.
     
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    Yep, lots of flexibility for different engines by placing it there. And, less noise in the cockpit. Plus, if it comes apart (bird ingestion, etc) then I'd much rather have it back there than in the wing root.
     
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    There is always someone willing to buy anything. Not anything but a jet for an average pilot. You can buy a T-33 for that much and be cool. Without a second seat or more for a hundred grand plus, it better be ex military. The engine on top is smart ; very little heat shielding has to be done or ducting. Now if it looked more like a He163 i might change my opinion. At $55,000 there would be a lot of RV guys jumping over, but not 135k.
     
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    The engine itself costs more than that.
     
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    That is why it will not be a big seller after the excitement.
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