The Reversion Clause...
What the heck is a reversion clause yousay? Well, here at KRST (Rochester, Minnesota), where we are trying to renegotiate our land lease, our airport manager is insisting on a reversion clause - a clause in the contract that causes the ownership of the hangar to revert to the airport at the end of the lease.Built my house and hanger in 1998. Hanger is across the driveway from the house. It was a Miracle Truss building kit including the 42' bi-fold door. In the 23 years the bi-fold door is opened most every day except on cold winter days and I had to replace the seal on the bottom of the door last year and being cable operated, a set of cables last about 5 or 6 years. Last year the electric motor died and had to be replaced. My 48'x60' hanger is insulated and the concrete floor and footer and piers are insulated on the outside down about 30"in the ground. Have hot water heating tubes in the floor and a NG boiler, and also a force air NA furnace and AC for the hanger and a separate AC for the office and bathroom in the right rear corner. Paint booth in the left rear corner.
Also have a wood burning stove in the setting area for the cold,snowy winter days and napping on the couch if Dallas doesn't beat me to it.
My daughter and dallas has the Hi-Fold brand of door, and I like it better in some ways and not in other ways. The aluminum bi-fold doors are nice but costly. The coldest I have seen the inside of the hanger without any heat on is 50 deg when it was below zero outside. The heat of the ground under the concrete floor (53 degs) helps with the heating. My NG bill for heating the 3000 sq' hanger and the 2400 sq' house just went up to 80 dollars a month. NG well is about 300' from the house and hanger beside the runway.
Added-- Before buying land here, I was thinking of building a hanger at the county airport. By the contract, in 20 years they would own it. No way.
Yup, you read that right... at the end of the lease, the hangar no longer belongs to me, it belongs to the airport(!)
And lest you believe this is unique to KRST ... I've been working closely with AOPA legal, who tells me that yup, that's standard across the country, and that if I fight it I'll most certainly loose.
THAT's the thing I don't like for my hangar!
As a company, we actually handle hangar security and automation using cellular connection so you don't need WiFi you can see a little more about us at Lynk Remote TechnologiesMy wife is talking about moving, and nowhere we're looking at has hangars available. So I might end up having to put one up...this thread is coming in handy.
What do folks do security-wise? I might end up at a small airport with little restrictions for people coming by. Are you putting in alarms, or....?
"Long Range," as in four-five miles away? Isn't a .40 a little light for that?I’m partial to my .40 S&W. Most others rely on their 9 mm’s, and some of the ladies are partial to their .380’s. We all have a variety of intermediate and long range options that are ready.
Where are you in TN?I got very lucky with hangars. Our TN airport built some all metal bifold door hangars about 12 years ago and sold them to private owners. I bought a 40 by 40 as second owner then last year traded it for one of the all metal Tee hangars the city built at same time as the others. Ended up with less than 20k total investment in all metal tee hangar with bifold doors.View attachment 117223View attachment 117223
Naw, the .40 S&W is for close-in work. The longer range needs are met by a .223, a .243, or a .30-06..50 cal is better for that range... the Taiwanese snipe between islands, using them. Here's a shot of me in the sand dunes of North Dakota, in the mid-'70s.
I kind of like HIGHER POWER DOORS. They are quick (hydraulic powered), sturdy, self-supported by the uprights (balanced and over-centered), and easier to seal. Also, it doesn’t take a big bite out of the vertical space (only about 6 inches) and the bottom few inches of travel is vertical, so it doesn’t scrape the bottom seal against the concrete.There is no perfect door. They all have the + and -.
Is your airpark paved? I am just about resigned to looking for an airpark property but would need a paved strip, and everything I can find close to me is grass.He's in Moore County, not far from KTHA. That's where his hangar is. I'm in the airpark at KTHA. I think we've got another local member here too, but don't remember who that is off the top of my head right now.
Yep. Remember our exchanges on your time builder thread? That's one of the reasons I moved away from canard envy, though a well maintained grass strip can work for something like a Velocity; I know of one based at a grass strip.Is your airpark paved? I am just about resigned to looking for an airpark property but would need a paved strip, and everything I can find close to me is grass.
Yep. Remember our exchanges on your time builder thread? That's one of the reasons I moved away from canard envy, though a well maintained grass strip can work for something like a Velocity; I know of one based at a grass strip.
I ended up here. My house note & runway dues initially were less than a lot of people pay for T hangar rent. Now it's just $300/year in runway dues, but I do have to mow my share of grass....
If interest rates head up, this might be seen as a good time when viewed in retrospect.I told my wife as we drove around Sunday that I am sorely tempted to buy 150-200 acres of pasture, pave in a runway and start building and selling plots and homes with hangars and barndominiums just to solve my own problem.