# What is an affordable ultralight?

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#### BJC

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I've been wondering what folks would consider an affordable ultralight that would be ground breaking in one form or another.
To me a ground breaking ultralight would be something that looks and flys like a traditional airplane, has reasonable performance, a four stroke engine, solid on-going technical support, electric start, and fits me, at 6’ 2” and 215 pounds.
What do others deem "ground breaking in one form or another" to be?

BJC

#### conestogaman

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'Ground breaking' may not be the best choice of words...

(prolly shouldn't use 'Earth Shattering' either)

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#### Gregory John Gordon

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All you guys & girls have forgotten aviation ultralight history.... the VP1(Volksplane)....simple to build...vw engine...a simple engine to maintain...cheap to buy.....yes not the most "pretty" aircraft....but properly engineered & designed for a mission statement. Build cost with engine today with a little savy say $15000$Aus...go and think....an overbuilt "tank".....but does the job. And if you don't like the VW engine....then at more cost....say a Jabiru 2200.
Kind regards,
Greg.....owner of a VP1

#### Victor Bravo

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In the USA and perhaps other countries, there is a significant difference between ultralights and homebuilt experimentals. The VP-1 is almost double the maximum weight allowed for an "ultralight" here.

#### Gregory John Gordon

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Here in Australia...an ultralight aircraft is below 1350lbs maximum take off weight......overseen by Recreational Aviation Australia under our Civil Aviation Safety Authority....your equivalent FAA...so given your weight restrictions....the only aircraft that I know that may meet your Ultralight requirements is The J3 Kitten....a very nice aircraft...to look at...I have not flown one.
Kind regards,
Greg.

#### mullacharjak

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Chinook WT11 ultralight with rotax 277.There is not much aluminum in that aircraft.It can easily be scratch built.Or VJ24W sunfun with KT100 Yamaha engine.More difficult to build than the Chinook.

#### Victor Bravo

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Actually we have several aircraft that will reliably meet the 254 pound ultralight weight, including the Kolb Firefly, TEAM MiniMax, Legal Eagle, Airbike, and a handful more.

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#### Tom Emery

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I could swear I loaded a few pictures. Here, round 2. I am not very tech savvy. I just assume the little gremlins will do the right thing and post what I have selected.
I am watching this process to insure something happens. It looks like the seat and control stick are loaded. As I type the next picture is 92% done. 94, 96.... I need a faster connection..this is tedious.
Well, while the next 2 pictures load, I might as well tell you a little bit about my "Craigslist " find.
I have been researching ultralights for the last 6 months in anticipation of selecting a first wing. I flew hanggliders for about 5 years and wanted a "real" plane with "stick and rudder" control and a seat. Hanging under an airframe trying to keep your head up for 2 or 3 hours is murder on an already messed up back. No running to take off and land, no hunting thermals, no having to hump the glider on and off the transport van and assemble it every time you want to fly...getting old.
I selected the Hummer for its raw simplicity, its docile handling and that open cockpit. I also decided to purchase a Mitchell wing. Yeah, I know, who needs 2 planes? Well , I have the Hummer and the Mitchell isn't going anywhere just yet. I may wait a bit on the Mitchell.

#### rivilee

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So Tom, where in Alabamer are you?

#### pwood66889

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And, since I may be on your way if you come close to KTLH, gimme a shout. Would buy the coffee...

#### karmarepair

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Chinook WT11 ultralight with rotax 277.There is not much aluminum in that aircraft.It can easily be scratch built.Or VJ24W sunfun with KT100 Yamaha engine.More difficult to build than the Chinook.
I don't see where plans or parts for the Chinook single place are available. Do you have a source?

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