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Speedboat100

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That would be an electric paramotor. They are for sale and are roadable too. Very few pilots will admit that there are roadable aircraft available. You can walk down the street with one or you can carry it in the boot of a vehicle. You could even modify a wheel barrel to make a more useful roadable.

I hope there will be a little more capable craft than a paramotor. I think if electric will ever be efficient it has to be very lite and compact. Good glide rate and only then can you achieve some range with it.
 

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That would be an electric paramotor. They are for sale and are roadable too. Very few pilots will admit that there are roadable aircraft available. You can walk down the street with one or you can carry it in the boot of a vehicle. You could even modify a wheel barrel to make a more useful roadable.
I was flying with paraglider and I really enjoyed this type of flying.
It is definitely easiest (and cheapest) way how to go to the air. I got my license in 3 days (1993), but than I had to learn a lot by myself :)
Finally I decided that I want good landing gear instead of my onw legs.....
And I started tofly with ultralight airpanes....

Some projects of electric paramotor are interesting. For example e-Glider...

Manufacturer data (hopefully interesting):

- 24AH battery is enough for 10-15 minutes of full power, which is about 30 minutes of normal flight last 4 minutes runs only 50% of the power to reach the landing area.
- The battery is charged with a standard charger for approx. 2.5 hours and a quick charger (not included) for approx. 1.5 hours.
- Less noise, lower vibration and almost no maintenance (engine manufacturer gives a 10-year warranty).
- The battery manufacturer guarantees 800 charges, after which its capacity is reduced to 80%.
- There is a 2-year warranty on the construction of the backpack, provided that the warranty does not cover careless handling.
- Engine power 10,3 kW (about 13hp), at about 2000 rpm.
- Approved and certified in Germany, including the tricycle.
- Price of a backpack (without tricycle) including batteries is 8 500 Euros.


So 8 500 EUR + price of tricycle undercarriage + price of paraglider etc.

To have comparizon - EXOMO electric paramotor is from 9 170 EUR
Complete RTF set is from 12 870 EUR to 16 870 EUR.

I am not anymore active paragliding pilot so I can´t bring something new to this area of flying. But for price comparizon is interesting :)
 

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Small upgrade of prices....
12 870 EUR - electric paraglider
45 200 EUR - SWIFT (electric self launch)
43 000 EUR - GP11 Pulse (just glider)
82 900 EUR - GP14 Velo (electric self launch)
93 900 EUR - GP15 Jeta (electric self launch)
50 000 EUR - Birdy (KIT incl electric self launch system)
89 500 EUR - Archaeopteryx (electric version)
65 000 EUR - Silent Electro (price info from 2013)
79 000 EUR - MiniLak (with FES self launch)
? - ATOS Wing
 

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Yes how much does an artificial horizont instrument alone cost ?
This question has no simple answer :)
You can buy combined instrument like this

Or "old" vacum or electric version

Or you can buy "extra box" with sensors and see info on your iPad
Etc etc....
 

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Did you find the OpenPPG project in your search? It's the cheapest out there, and a nice community to share your passion with ;)
The folding version is pretty impressive, to be able to have it in your car at all times ;) but from what i heard on youtube, quite noisy (think big ass rc quadcopter).
They are moving to single engine...
 

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Did you find the OpenPPG project in your search? It's the cheapest out there, and a nice community to share your passion with ;)
The folding version is pretty impressive, to be able to have it in your car at all times ;) but from what i heard on youtube, quite noisy (think big ass rc quadcopter).
They are moving to single engine...

They are nice, but don't seem to move.
 

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Small upgrade :)
12 870 EUR - electric paraglider

28 500 EUR - ZIGOLO (KIT + electric propulsion)

45 200 EUR - Aeriane Swift (electric self launch)

43 000 EUR - GP11 Pulse (just glider)
82 900 EUR - GP14 Velo (electric self launch)
93 900 EUR - GP15 Jeta (electric self launch)

50 000 EUR - Birdy (KIT incl electric self launch system)

89 500 EUR - Archaeopteryx (electric version)

65 000 EUR - Silent Electro (price info from 2013)

79 000 EUR - MiniLak (with FES self launch)

? - ATOS Wing
 

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Looking at second hand market in Germany give you an idea of real prices today. Even more expensive !

45 200 EUR - Aeriane Swift (electric self launch)
=> 47 000€ for 15 years structure but electrical system new.

65 000 EUR - Silent Electro (price info from 2013)
=> They are not for sale anymore, but until 1 month ago there was 2 Silent Electro for 100 000 € on segelflug.de

I have not yet seen any GP glider for sale...

79 000 EUR - MiniLak (with FES self launch)
=> 128 000 € (32 000€ 1/4 property) for brand new to be delivered
=> 110 000€ for lak 17bFES. With 13,5 wing extention, it is the same as mini-lak

Not adapted for cruise with electric motor, but still interesting reference point :
Taurus G2 Electro :
This one is brand new at 132 000€

Also Antares 20E :
170 000 € after 15 years of use!
 
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