# Verner Anounced suspensoin of production for 3V and 5V radials

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#### 103

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Actually they said the discontinued them to dedicate all manufacturing capacity to the more lucrative 9 cylinder .

I am hopeful they will expand capacity and resume in the future. I would like a LE with a 3V

Feel free to drool!

Very disappointed as I think they would fit the lighter side of aviation I like.

Matt

#### cluttonfred

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Yes, I contacted them last week and got the same news back directly. Very disappointing considering they had just announced new 3VL and 5VL versions of those engines. :-(

#### pictsidhe

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That's a huge shame.

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crap

#### Vigilant1

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That's too bad. Anybody know how many of the 42 HP 3 Cyl engines they typically sold in the US each year?

FWIW, their web site says they've stopped making the 60 HP "Scarlett 5VL" model, but doesn't (yet?) say they stopped making the 83HP 5S model.

#### GeeZee

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What blane said. well at least we can still GET a 5 cyl. (5S). Although at 152lbs it’s gonna take you into solid LSA territory.

#### TFF

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It’s one of those things that if the wishers were buyers. I bet if you ordered 10 they would make you them. One a year is a man hour killer.

#### pictsidhe

Unfortunately, the 3V was over $9k. That's a lot for an ultralight engine. Now I'm going to be pondering how to build a radial from Honda cylinders and a generator crank. Last edited: #### 103 ##### Well-Known Member Unfortunately, the 3V was over$9k. That's a lot for an ultralight engine.
Now I'm going to be pondering how to build a radials from Honda cylinders and a generator crank.
Ouch I rememberd \$5K and I thought that was spendy. Competition would be good.

#### BJC

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That's too bad. Anybody know how many of the 42 HP 3 Cyl engines they typically sold in the US each year?
Anybody here buy one?

BJC

#### Vigilant1

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Anybody here buy one?

BJC
IIRC, ScaleBirdsScott is a dealer for Verner, maybe he has some more info on Verner's plans and the reasons for dropping these products.

#### BBerson

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I think there was three of them on the ultralight flight line at Airventure 2019.

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That is disappointing, but I can't blame them for going with what's giving them the best return on their investment.

I thought the 5V would be a good match to the Luton Minor I'm noodling on.

#### flitzerpilot

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My resurrected Sperry Messenger design which was partially the inspiration for the Flitzer Z-1, at (now) 85% scale, was based on the 3VL. Calculations indicate that it would meed the UK's SSDR category. The drawings have now firmed-up though not yet to a publishable standard but several parts have been collected and earmarked for this aeroplane while the tail group is 75% constructed. However, other demands mean that I have to shelve it for the present while I complete drawings for other types, such as the Flitzer-Laird and F.2 Tiger.

A shame about the 3VL and 5VL. I hope the 5Si remains in production as this suits many of the smaller Flitzer biplane types and would endow them with sensational climb performance in particular.

#### cohocarl

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Wonder how much interest there would be if they offered the 3 & 5 in kit form...add your own cylinders, heads, & pistons to keep the price attractive.

#### GeeZee

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Paging Pete Plumb, paging Pete Plumb, your next project is calling....

#### Protech Racing

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Ultralight flyers are cheap or broke .

#### Toobuilder

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Just exactly what happens when there are more dreamers than doers.

Can't really complain about a product going away if nobody is going to buy it, can you?

#### pictsidhe

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Just exactly what happens when there are more dreamers than doers.

Can't really complain about a product going away if nobody is going to buy it, can you?
I looked at them and decided I'd rather spend that much money on at least one complete UL...

#### Noeson

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I contacted a Verner dealer (radialsrock.com) yesterday, here is his reply:

"We will be taking orders for the 3VL and 5VL until the end of October."