Top 10 Movie Dogfights

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    Since there's been a lot of talk about movies here lately, I thought I'd post this that came to my attention on youtube a couple weeks ago:
    https://www.youtube.com/embed/kx1f4z1fb4k
    I've seen most that they mention but it looks like I have some foreign films to look up...
     
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    the movies make the dog fight look so cool and fun, but I bet there was many of pants wettened in the real thing! Can you imagine having a engine stall right in the middle of a fight ? Or have your windscreen shot out at 400 mph, no man that don't look like too much fun to me. :cry:
     
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    Glad to see the Waldo Pepper/Erich Kessler one in there.
     
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    That's Ernst Kessler...

    My own list wouldn't include anything made with CGI. Of course it's a lot tougher nowadays, when the only planes left are priceless antiques rather than surplus junk.

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    Dogfights - ShareTV My favorite is Episode 16 Death of the Luftwaffe I recorded it from the TV and I watch it often.
     
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    Meh.
     
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    Can't please everyone, I guess.
     
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    Well if "Redtails" and anime made the list...
     
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    Id like to add the chase scene in Capricorn One. Not technically a dogfight, but close enough, and it had some great interactions between the helicopter and Stearman. Frank Tallman did some nice flying in that, and the scenes where the helicopter rams the Stearman are all real. Tallman wanted the chase to look real, so they flew the chase as a real chase, largely unscripted. The Stearman's plunge over the canyon lip caught the helicopter pilot completely off guard.

    Honorable mention might go to the helicopter chase movie, Birds of Prey.
     
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    real airplanes or ones on strings. No CGI. Requires nothing that is real. Battle of Britain has some good flying as does Blue Thunder
     
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    Von richthofen and brown, (as far as real aircraft go )
     
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    I've never managed to find that one. Richard Bach did some of the moving flying for that one; there's an article ("I Shot Down the Red Baron, and So What?") about it in "A Gift of Wings".

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    I see I have to go to Amazon....

    CGI, or at least models, but still good... Firefox.
     
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    Full movie is on you tube,(you have to sign into prove your age) and it is very good quailty.(OK maybe not that good but it's watchable)
     
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    After watching "The Great Waldo Pepper" on Netflix some time back, I stumbled upon a Youtube video of Bo Swensen discussing the scene when he and Robert Redford went out on the wing. Yes, it was real and so were their expressions! No acting there. :gig:
     
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    Anybody remember that old movie Cloud Dancer? David Carradine is a competitive aerobatics performer who goes up against a P-51.

    [video]www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSvMtRlezBM[/video]
     
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    I'm willing to watch a good animated dogfight, CG or hand drawn or whatever; if the rest of the plot isn't terrible. Unfortunately it usually ends up that way.

    And I have no rise tinted glasses about the older films; many just don't hold up, even as current ones fail to deliver as well.
     
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    I prefer real airplanes to CG.... A good plot with real airplanes is hard to beat. Many flying movies feature combat but I actually prefer movies that stress civil aviation and exploration. The fairly recent movies about Amelia Earhart and Howard Hughes were excellent, more of that please! I would love to see something new about Yeager, Wiley Post, Pancho Barnes, and etc.
     
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    I have nothing against CGI specifically, but I do have real issues with how it is used. CGI can yield some amazing results if done by someone with experience using realistic flight performance parameters. It is when the animator has less than a total comprehension of how a plane flies, or how a pilot truly responds to a situation, that CGI falls flat. I might also point out that even if the CGI plane performs realistically, unrealistic viewer perspective (where the virtual camera shoots from) can ruin the effect by making it look unrealistic.

    I will say that I like scenes filmed with real aircraft. The look and feel and imperfections cannot be denied, and we (pilots) have a greater appreciation for the aircraft and the skill of the pilot when we know it to be real.
     
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    I have flown aircraft set up as a camera platform in filming movies. Interesting flying.

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