THE PIETENPOL AREA

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    Great, I'll like to starting mid summer. I have enough VW parts to build an engine. Have lots of scrap box steel and angle and plate. If I need any 4130 tubing I have enough to build another airplane if I wanted. Have a friend that always have several VW parts cars where I should be able to get a rear suspension and transaxle. I gave a rear suspension and transaxle away a couple years ago just to get it out of my way.
    I will gladly pay for anything that you have that I can use on the build.

    Back on topic, Used to have a neighbor that built the spoke wheels for his Piet. He turned the hub himself. He said he wanted to built as much from scratch as possible. They were beautiful. He sold his first Piet ( well it was really a Greda) Now has another Piet getting close to cover with a Cont-A-65 also with wire wheels.
     
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    I don't know if it has already been mentioned here on this wheel thread (;)), but not all spoked wheels will take side loads. Bikes and motorcycles lean into their turns, so the loads on the wheels are mostly radial, but not so on a plane (especially if you ground loop).
     
  3. Feb 12, 2017 #43

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    Ground Loop, what's that ? :)
     
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    When you get to the neck part give me a call so we can set up the geometry correctly (rake, trail, etc). I can probably even give you a forged neck. I can probably even get you a title and serial number. Haha.
     
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    That's the geometry part of the equation and why you want a wide hub.
     
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    thanks guys for so much activity on this thread
     
  7. Feb 13, 2017 #47

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    Ok, I have to know. How hard is it really to get a normal size adult into the front cockpit? I have seen a couple of pics of people going for a ride in the front 'pit, and I presume the builder didn't just apply fabric and paint around them...they had to have gotten in there somehow.
     
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    Young and smaller.
     
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    Pictures of Piets on our field. Two have been sold. The yellow Piet is still on the field. I like the first one the best. I have flown cross country trips in formation with the first and last one with my SSSC. The first Piet has been flown to OSH 2 times.
     

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    Would it make sence to power a Piet with a VW aeroconersion or similar power pack or even a hks?
     
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    Long answer--- NO
     
  12. Feb 13, 2017 #52

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    I believe the Piet just isn't quite suited to the VW. If it has to be modern(ish) auto-engined, I wonder if the Nissan installation from a Platzer Kiebitz would work well.
     
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    Can you make one of those swing a big prop slowly?

    Corvair conversions have been popular. Even Pietenpol himself used these.
     
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    I've just been poking around* and find hints of an aluminum model A block, which I expect would make it considerably lighter and maybe cool better as well. Also various hop ups, but I don't know if they work at low rpm. (The Air Camper originally had an engine from a Ford model A.)


    *So much more fun than cleaning off the car and going to get more shear pins for the snowblower.
     
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    Went for a ride in a Piet years ago, but don't remember if I had trouble getting in; 6' 190 lbs. However I WAS much younger and more agile then.
     
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    Good to see a thread like this as I am on the works to build one.I get enthused for other crafts a short time but I seem to gravitate to the Air Camper more.For me I am wanting to supply myself spruce locally instead of online to cut cost.As suggested I will make the metal parts first.
     
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    was it built to specs in the plans? Raising the wing for better access to the front cockpit is pretty common......
     
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    Gotta hacksaw and a couple of hours? :gig:

    This should give you an idea:

    [video=youtube;exLPpG73BWA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exLPpG73BWA[/video]
     
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    Don't worry about the passenger, that's the beauty of ownership. Lol.

    Hey, if they complain just call it "charm" because that's what it is. And it's not really that bad getting in, I was pretty heavy back when I got in a Pietenpol, a couple weeks of therapy cured everything.
     
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    For those who insist on easy front cockpit access in a Piet, it would be interesting to design a Ryan M-1 style steel tube fuselage for one.
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    By moving the upper longeron above the occupants you would free up space to install a set of full-height doors while keeping the open cockpit feel:
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    Of course, if someone came up with that alternative fuselage it could also be fully enclosed easily enough which would give you a roughly 3/4 scale Curtiss Robin.
     

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