The Millholland Designs Legal Eagle Ultralight, Legal Eagle XL and Double Eagle

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    Thought I would start us a thread for Leonard's designs. Anything concerning the LEU, XL or DE. Construction techniques, motors, performance, weight and balance, sources, material, questions or whatever you want feel free to put it here. Some thread drift is ok so long as it may be remotely related to the Eagles somehow. Last report I got from Leonard the plans sales increase every year including the first model, the short wing LEU. They got a site dedicated to the designs; I'm not active in that site anymore and don't have the link, sorry. My particular plane PuttPutt was one of the first plans built and has had so much exposure here and elsewhere that I hesitate to say a lot about it for fear being a broken record but I keep getting questions every time it's mentioned so will post those answers here from time to time. I'm wondering about Frank Johnson's new one with the Verner and wish he would tell us how that's going but he's so busy building props we might not get anything.

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    And his Cabin Eagle, too! I have plans set no. 16, IIRC.

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    If someone thinks they can't afford to own an airplane and fly, stop drinking the colored sugar water called soda , lay off of fast foods, and use the money saved from that and going to the doctors because of eating junk food, and start building one of the Millholland designs and have fun building and a blast in fun flying it.
    Almost forgot, that also includes money spent on smoking. Fuel burn is about like your lawn mover so that is not a problem either.
     
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    The only airplane missing from the Eagle line up is a proper XXL (full engine XL). At my gross weight and density altitude an 1835 is the smallest engine I can get away with.
    I bought the plans for all three. For ME: The LE is too small and the DE is too big. The XL is just right but it was never meant to carry a full VW.

    A few guys have modified XL's into XXL's to carry a full VW but none of them inspire one with confidence. The Neirrh XXL was designed from the ground up to be a purpose built full engine "Eagle". ...now if I can just get back to work on it.
     
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    To me it's the closest thing in 103 that is built like a big boy airplane. It's all sturdy stuff; 3/4 Cub / Champ. It really is. I helped build one but sadly my friend just sold it at the cover stage with a New Castler engine. Cover and a prop is all it need. Will not get to fly it now, so that sucks.
     
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    The Legal Eagle looks like a really good candidate for the O-100 engine as well. The one with the Verner 3 cylinder engine looks really neat too. Has anyone flown one with the Valley Big Twin or another V-twin conversion? Seems like a natural.
     
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    Look at this, you will see Joe balance a landing at OSH.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOtLBc_nZEE

    Last year a good friend of mine for about 40 years was building a Legal Eagle and it was about ready to cover and had the 1/2 VW for it. It went on the back burner while he was repairing and recovering the wing on his Piet. Then he called me and told me someone stopped by his shop and bought the LE, the price was just above free. Darn, Darn, Rats N Frats .
     
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    I see that the 3v is advertised to weigh 81lbs but configured as we see it in the video's the whole plane is still 103 legal?
     
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    Who would ever care enough to check? The 1/2 VW comes in at 85 or so depending on how it's built.
     
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    I am not sure, would have to watch it again, but I thought he said that with the battery he had on the firewall it was the same weight as the 1/2 VW. I like the big 67"x 30" pitch prop.

    I like the folding wings of the Cabin Eagle. I sold the SSSC because I didn't have room in the hanger for the JMR and the SSSC when I put the wings on the JMR. No room to add on to the hanger. If I had a Cabin Eagle, no problem with room with the folding wings.
     
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    Scarlet engine

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    Well I built the XL fuselage with the LE wing span. I didnt need the full gross of the larger wingspan. And put the Verner 3VW on it. There is currently 1 LE flying with the 3V and one XL (Les Homan). Les reported total weight was reduced, i believe 4lbs. Performance was a gain from the Half VW 45HP in climb and cruise. Including mine, there are 3 more getting ready to fly. Mine will fly when i have time and the weather cooperates, hopefully early spring. Heres the walk around video https://youtu.be/bFK8RP9w0ng
    I'm still testing props to get the best performance, the one i made Les has done very well, one thing to keep in mind is the 3V prop is 62 to 67 inches in diameter verses the VW at 52 to 56 inches, so ground clearance is a consideration. I built the gear 2" taller, big tires and offset the engine mount centerline up one inch.
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    I looked at the weights a while back. I figured at the time that the Verner and the 45 horse Casler would be a near direct replacement wt/bal wise. Best I remember my 45 with the nikasil cylinders and 2 Mikunis weighs 79#. My old 37 was 85 with the Zenith and steel cylinders. Believe Leonard says 85 for his Better Half(uncut case). The Verner oughta replace the 45 with just minor mount length adjustments. Frank knows for sure.
     
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    VB the Big Twin weighs 120ish and the half Vdubs/Verner about 80-85 and they all make about the same hp(depending on which Vdub). So nose heavy and power/weight way down with the Big Twin. Somebody correct that if wrong.
     
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    Can one of you who has build one of the millholland designs give an estimate on time to build. That Cabin eagle looks good!!
     

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