geosnooker2000
Well-Known Member
So according to 23.335 ( I believe), it's all very cut and dried when you are designing to establish a base.
Design Cruising Speed (Vc) = 33 * Sqrt (wing loading)
Design Dive Speed (Vd) = 1.4 * Vc
Never Exceed Speed (Vne) = 0.9 * Vd
Then it says to flight test to expand the envelope further.
So am I correct in assuming that to increase Vne, that you MUST test to find a Vd, and then multiply that by .9 to establish a new Vne?
Example: FAR calcs yield for a hypothetical -
@2200 max TOw
Vc = 32' span’* 4.5’ chord = 144 sf (wing loading = 15.28) Sqrt = 3.9
Vc = 33* 3.9
Vc = 129 knots (148mph)
Vd = 1.4* 129
Vd = 180.8 (208 mph)
Vne = 0.9 *180.8
Vne = 163 (187mph)
If one wanted to increase the Vc to 170mph, one MUST put the plane in a dive to 238mph during a flight test? I mean, I realize the E-AB world theoretically has no "must", but ... best practices?
Design Cruising Speed (Vc) = 33 * Sqrt (wing loading)
Design Dive Speed (Vd) = 1.4 * Vc
Never Exceed Speed (Vne) = 0.9 * Vd
Then it says to flight test to expand the envelope further.
So am I correct in assuming that to increase Vne, that you MUST test to find a Vd, and then multiply that by .9 to establish a new Vne?
Example: FAR calcs yield for a hypothetical -
@2200 max TOw
Vc = 32' span’* 4.5’ chord = 144 sf (wing loading = 15.28) Sqrt = 3.9
Vc = 33* 3.9
Vc = 129 knots (148mph)
Vd = 1.4* 129
Vd = 180.8 (208 mph)
Vne = 0.9 *180.8
Vne = 163 (187mph)
If one wanted to increase the Vc to 170mph, one MUST put the plane in a dive to 238mph during a flight test? I mean, I realize the E-AB world theoretically has no "must", but ... best practices?