Suzuki weight??

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skip_hill

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geo weight

The GeO is about 118# when stripped of all the car junk.. The Cam 100 engine is based on the Honda 4cyl I belive the Civic. The Geo / Suzuki can be found in the Suzuki Samorei, or the Chev Geo.
 

jdhogg

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just wondering

a mid 70s to 80 MGB engine is very small and a supercharger can be had for them,wonder if it would work
 

Kmccune

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118-125lbs @ 58hp and carb.
138-138lns @ 62lbs and injected.
159lbs and 80hp turboed.

Weights with redrive.

Kevin
 

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Heres another question on the Suzuki motors, whats the weight on the 1.3l 4 cylinder motor? and another question, is there a site or resource to use to find these weights? Ive tried looking on general google search and wiki, but cant find anything. Thanks
 

Kmccune

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As far as I can tell there are two presently supplying redrives and 1.3L engines ( in North America). And one getting ready to do so.

The getting ready to do so is: http://www.b2engines.com/index.html They are a more turn key high performance alternative. As well as untested.

The one in Canada is: http://www.airtrikes.net They do not use any torsional dampeners, but seem to do ok.

The one I'm banking on is: http://www.raven-rotor.com/
They are proven, have torsional dampeners and also offer a sideways engine to fit in a Rotax 912 footprint.

Kevin
 

Blackhawk

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I've got two brand new (Not rebuilt) Suzuki 4 cylinder engines, EFI, naturally asperated put out 90hp as a standard engine.

Complete with wiring loom and computer

If anyone is interested US$3750 each.

Graeme
 

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Kmccune

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Here is a rather long explanation of the Raven 1300SVS 4 clyinder Geo engine weight. Read from bottom to top. But 210 lbs for engine coolant, radiator, mount and prop. Also good info on the real 912 weight.



Re: [FlyGeo] Re: 1.3 all up weight

Kevin



Checked with a couple other manufacturers at Sun¹n Fun and Oshkosh a few years back about the exact weight of the 912. They said removing the
complete engine from their plane with radiator its dry weight is 163-165 lbs. not counting engine mount. Add about the same amount of coolant and oil, similar prop, about the same weight for an engine mount and you will see why we say we are 18 to 20 lbs. heavier than the 912.


Jeron Smith

Raven Redrives Inc.





On 9/15/09 12:57 PM, "k_mccune" <k_mccune@...> wrote:


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> Thanks again Jeron, 210 is not so bad, as there are O-200 and Corvair engines > hung on the front of this airframe and they fly well. It would be interesting > to know the total weight of a 912 including mount and prop. Actually my real > concern was the airframe empty weight and how the engine would effect it. The > 701 is a STOL aircraft and too much total weight would kill the climb
> performance. I did not know about the shorter moment though, nice! >

> Kevin McCune

>

> --- In FlyGeo@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FlyGeo%40yahoogroups.com> , "Raven > Design Inc." <raven@...> wrote:
>> >

>> > Kevin

>> >

>> > With over forty Zenith 701 conversions over the years we, really worked >> hard

>> > to keep the weight of the firewall forward engine package for our 90HP >> > 1300SVS as close as possible to the factory recommended 200lbs. With our >> > custom 4130 engine mount at about 10 lbs. and about 8lbs. for a 3 blade >> > Ivo-prop you will be at about 210lbs. wet. Weight and balance work out >> > pretty close even though the Geo package is about 18-20 lbs. heavier than a >> > Rotax 912 as our moment arm is shorter since we don¹t have the heavy >> gearbox

>> > out at the prop hub and the mass of our engine is about 2² further aft. >> >

>> > As any builder knows it is a real challenge to keep the weight off - it >> > easily grows in a positive direction- is never less than what you thought >> it

>> > would be!

>> >

>> > Jeron

>> >

>> > Raven Redrives Inc.

>> >

>> >

>> > On 9/15/09 5:48 AM, "k_mccune" <k_mccune@...> wrote:
>> >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > > Thanks Jeron,

>>> > >

>>> > > That is what I was after. The one 701 with the SVS that I know specs for was

>>> > > quite a bit over standard empty weight. But there was lots of paint, >>> avionics

>>> > > and other stuff. But he didn't know how much his engine weighed! So this >>> tells

>>> > > me he had a whole lot of extra stuff on that airplane.
>>> > >

>>> > > Kevin

>>> > >

>>> > > --- In FlyGeo@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FlyGeo%40yahoogroups.com> >>> <mailto:FlyGeo%40yahoogroups.com> , "Raven
>>> > > Design Inc." <raven@> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >

>>>>> > >> > Kevin

>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > Our 1300SVS package used to be advertised at 168lbs. dry weight with

>>>>> > >> > computer, wiring harness, bed mount plate with Barry mounts, and air

>>>>> > >> > cleaner. Everything needed to make it run except fluids and >>>>> radiator. Add

>>>>> > >> > 15 to 17 lbs. for wet weight. Current weight is right at 175lbs. >>>>> dry as we

>>>>> > >> > have beefed up the oil pan and made the heavier main drive shaft >>>>> for the

>>>>> > >> > turbo upgrade model standard on all the drives. We use an >>>>> aftermarket

>>>>> > >> > starter, Suzuki¹s lightest alternator, a reinforced flexplate, and >>>> > >> extensive

>>>>> > >> > modifications to lighten the stock 17 lb. stainless steel intake >>>>> manifold

>>>> > >> by

>>>>> > >> > eight lbs. to get down to that number. We have the lightest >>>>> redrive as

>>>> > >> well

>>>>> > >> > at 17lbs. complete.
>>>>> > >> >

>>>>> > >> > The G13BB with its double weighted crank throws is carrying an >>>>> additional 7

>>>>> > >> > lbs. of unnecessary weight but it is too costly to change out to the

>>>> > >> earlier

>>>>> > >> > G13BA 8 valve engine single throw crank.
>>>>> > >> >

>>>>> > >> > Hope this helps.
>>>>> > >> >

>>>>> > >> > Jeron Smith

>>>>> > >> > Raven ReDrives Inc.
>>>>> > >> > 575-737-9656

>>>>> > >> >

Heres another question on the Suzuki motors, whats the weight on the 1.3l 4 cylinder motor? and another question, is there a site or resource to use to find these weights? Ive tried looking on general google search and wiki, but cant find anything. Thanks
 

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had my 3 cylinder geo metro engine out last month, weighed it in pieces on my bathroom scale.
5 speed transmission, complete, 51 lbs.
bare block w/main journal caps, 25 lbs.
crankshaft, 13 lbs.
3 pistons w/ rings, conn rods & caps, 2 lbs.
head w/ cam, drive pulley, intake manifold & tb, cast iron exhaust manifold, distributor, 41 lbs.
flywheel 10 lbs
clutch 3 lbs
front pulley 2 lbs
alternator 6 lbs
starter 6 lbs.
 

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Heres another question on the Suzuki motors, whats the weight on the 1.3l 4 cylinder motor? and another question, is there a site or resource to use to find these weights? Ive tried looking on general google search and wiki, but cant find anything. Thanks
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