Skylite Ultralight - RaceAir

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  1. Dec 23, 2017 #61

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    I’ve flown from the region of Geneva Switzerland to the south of Finnland and back with a trike powered by a Rotax582, 5500km total distance and an average fuel consumption between 4 to 5 gal. Several over water crossings were flown without a single issue. The total flight time was about 55hrs.
     
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    I never heard back from Oscar Zuniga of Rogue Air Parts on the current price for a set of wing rib widgets for a Skylite. It's been a few weeks so I pinged him again.

    EDIT--I heard back from Oscar right away this time, here's what he said. Before you ask, no, no one has yet paid him in silver, I asked. ;-)

     
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  3. Jan 10, 2018 #63

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    Thanks Mathew!
     
  4. Feb 6, 2018 #64

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    This thread reminded me of the Flitplane, another of Ed's designs. Another one that should be more popular.

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  5. Feb 6, 2018 #65

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  6. Feb 6, 2018 #66

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    I sold the design rights to Mark Klotz of Wings of Freedom. He still has plans, but I don't think his website is up current. I am sure if you could get ahold of him, he would be able to sell a set of plans....
    I designed and built an elaborate fuselage fixture to build Flitplane fuselages....He should still be able to build one up....I think I built three of them. It goes together quickly......
     
  7. Mar 12, 2018 #67

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    Rotax 277, 26 hp, 29.5 kg (65 lb) complete including reduction drive and exhaust system

    Verner Scarlett 3VW, 42 BHP, 33.5 kg (73 lbs) bare (add stub exhausts, oil tank, oil)

    Hmmmm, a Skylite with a Verner 3-cylinder radial, maybe painted up like this....?

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  8. Mar 13, 2018 #68

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    Boy you could get Dick and Sharon and their whole gang all riled up with a Verner powered Morane... !!!
     
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  9. Mar 13, 2018 #69

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    I believe it was Dick Lemmons from that dawn patrol group that built two Skylites.....
     
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    I have a set of slightly used Skylite wings/ailerons I will sell reasonably if someone wants to come to South Carolina and get them........
     
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    That's tempting Ed, though I am not sure where I would store them. Quick question...have you ever done an alternate rudder shape for the Skylite? I like the "shark fin" just fine but it might look odd with a WWI scheme. Cheers, Matthew

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    Looking at the photo, it seems that part of the reason for that shape might also include a need to get more fin/rudder/vertical area further aft. Putting an antique-ish shape on it might not be a trivial matter like it would be on some other aircraft ????
     
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    Even if that were the case, I am not talking about changing the proportions significantly, just the aesthetics. This came out looking more de Havilland than I had in mind, but you get the idea. Then again, maybe tricolor stripes on the stock rudder would be just fine!

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    Victor Bravo has it right....Its about 'volume area', not just area.....Sweeping the rudder aft makes the airplane 'think' it is longer....This allowed me to make the fuselage shorter, and the actual rudder smaller, which means lighter. The centroid of the rudder area is aft of the end of the fuselage.....
    One builder built two Skylites. He put a very 'taylor monoplane' shaped fin/rudder on it, with a vertical fin/rudder post. I didn't like it, and I'll bet he lost some of his yaw stability...
     
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    The design rights for the Skylite and the Lil' Bitts biplane have been acquired by Marc Webster of Cloudbase Engineering. It was time to turn the designs over to someone with the time, energy, and enthusiasm to continue with them. I will still retain ownership of the Mong Sport Design, but soon the Raceair Designs website will disappear. Join me in wishing Marc the best with his new endeavor!...
     
  17. Apr 15, 2018 #77

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    All the best Marc.
     
  18. Apr 16, 2018 #78

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    Thank you Little Scrapper,

    Did you ever start building yours? I have not received anything yet from Ed, but when I do I plan to go over the design and possibly make available a few sub-kit items. Its too soon to know what my plans are until I have a bit of time to go over everything, but I look forward and promoting Ed's designs and also will begin the build of a Skylite as well. At the moment still unsure on the powerplant as I live in the greater Los Angeles area with no options for a landout making 4 stroke a bit more appealing. Or I just do my flying in the desert or out near Camarillo.

    Take care,

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    I have the plans just because I was curious about the design, not to build. I have a Cassutt going in my shop and a mini max ultralight going in my garage in case you didn't see the video thread.
     
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    That still leaves room for the RV-7 project in the living room.... :)

    Congratulations Marc, you're definitely the right guy to move it forward and Ed is definitely the right designer to have created something worth moving forward with.
     

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