Rocket man flight

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  1. Mar 26, 2018 #21

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    Is it a fact that he designed and built the rocket / parachute system with no input from knowledgable people?


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  2. Mar 26, 2018 #22

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    Is it a fact that he designed and built the rocket / parachute system with no input from knowledgable people?


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  3. Mar 26, 2018 #23

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    Probably needed an airworthiness certificate. And pilot certificate, I suppose. (single engine rocket class rating)
    The FAA may not want to ask if no procedure to issue is available. He might have had a test permit or something.
     
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    The US Navy thinks so!
     
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    They are transitioning to electromagnetic catapults.


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  6. Mar 26, 2018 #26

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    I'd hate to be in the galley during a launch when all the cutlery fires towards the bow of the ship.
     
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    I was watching a Carrier motoring around in circles offshore yesterday. No airplanes on the deck.
    They can turn tighter than I thought.
     
  8. Mar 27, 2018 #28

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    My mouth fell open when the same tattered and inadequate chute opened on the 2nd flight. I thought he'd had a near disaster when it opened on the first flight. But to use it again strikes me as reckless. Maybe it was even packed like that for the first flight?
    He's giving us crackpots a bad image.
     
  9. Mar 27, 2018 #29

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    I wounder if he had an experimental airworthiness certificate or N number? Went too fast to be 103 legal.
     
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    Does the Part 103 speed limit also have to include rate of climb in the equation, or just speed across the ground?
     
  11. Mar 27, 2018 #31

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    Evel Kenevil was unconscious before his steam driven rocket bike was off the launch ramp and luckily had a dead man release for the parachute in his limp hand to release the parachute. The amount of g forces immediately must be incredible using steam release as a launch propellant. This guy must have had some kind of pressurized suit to stay conscious during liftoff. I never did see how high he went. He was **** near vertical and landed within 1500 feet of takeoff, and kenevil was at a 45° angle to cross a canyon. That may have something to do with launch velocity. I don’t no crap about that stuff.
     
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    It appears this is the second time Mad Mike has flown in a homemade rocket that he built. In January 2014, he rocketed to 1,300 feet above Winkleman, Arizona before landing and collapsing. He took three days to recover. Apparently very little coverage the first time so he came up with an attention grabbing headline for the second launch.
     
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    The FAA had to give permission for this specific launch window so I would guess he was using rules for Class II rocket and the FAA waivered the unmanned portion.
     
  14. Mar 27, 2018 #34

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    I think it's largely a show. Looking at his history it appears he's only become anti-science/pro-flat Earth since discovering that those people did a lot more for his GoFundMe account.
     
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    From what I know Tim is right. The 'Flat Earth' angle was just to get funding.
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    Basically, it's an extremely primitive contraption. The fins are fixed, there is no ability to alter trajectory. It's a steam rocket (not HTP) so it's explosion proof and simple. No turbopumps, combustion or fuel of any kind. Just a big tank of super heated water.
    I suppose the only controls in the cockpit are on/off for the water tank/nozzle and chute deployment.

    The supposed goal of 56 miles altitude is a complete fantasy - there is no way to scale this up.
    It would be faster and safer to wait for Virgin Galactic to get it's act together (if it can). It's supposed to reach 60 miles altitude, so he'd get an even better view.
     
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    I bet it is the lightest manned rocket ever launched vertically in the U.S. Germany may have done something smaller.
    Looks like an impressive payload ratio.
     
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    I keep thinking about a steam power launched glider.....buy a 110V hot water heater element plug it in for 30 min. ......wounder if it would be possible to make it a reasonable small thrust. I have read the water/steam is very abrasive.... diamond nozzle ?
     
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    Look up boiler explosion. See also steam tractor explosion. Or just explosion. I can't recommend this approach for your home built.

    Pt103 says nothing about climb rate. Doubt he hit the weight limit.
     
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    I think a flash tube boiler doesn't explode catastrophically.
     
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