# Rides Available

Discussion in 'Warbirds / Warbird Replicas' started by TXFlyGuy, May 20, 2019.

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1. May 20, 2019

### TXFlyGuy

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My brother-in-law bought a 45 minute flight in a T-6, at the Cavanaugh Flight Museum yesterday.

Also available was a ride in a P-51, for $1799/40 minutes. That is not so bad when you consider the hourly operating cost of a Mustang is upwards of$1400/hour.

2. May 20, 2019

### Dana

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Oh, to have more disposable income than I have...

My sisters and I looked into buying a Mustang ride for Dad before he passed some years back. Back then it was more like $2500, a bit too steep. 3. May 20, 2019 ### Geraldc ### Geraldc #### Well-Known Member Joined: Nov 12, 2011 Messages: 94 Likes Received: 29 Location: nz In 2012 I sold some stuff and went on a trip to Australia.I had some money for a flight in a Mustang at Caboulture airport in Queensland.Changed my mind and had a trial flight in a Fly synthesis Texan at Coloundra instead.That was the start of my flying/building. 4. May 21, 2019 ### Jerry Lytle ### Jerry Lytle #### Well-Known Member Joined: Jan 3, 2014 Messages: 318 Likes Received: 107 Location: Newport, Oregon 5. May 21, 2019 ### mcrae0104 ### mcrae0104 #### Armchair Mafia ConspiratorHBA Supporter Joined: Oct 27, 2009 Messages: 2,804 Likes Received: 1,852 Location: BDU, BJC Wow, what a beauty. Let's see,$1800 is only 12 hours of 172 rental around here. I could rationalize this...

6. May 21, 2019

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The dilemma is not cost as much as when will it be the last time? At some point the offers at any price will be over. All land locked in a museum. I need to do the local T6. I think it’s about $500 an hour. Not bad really; chasing a twin rating, you are spending$250-300 for some dumpy twin. Divert an hour and a half for something special.

7. May 21, 2019

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That's a great museum, even if you aren't taking a flight. I'd encourage anyone passing through to make a stop there. The Frontiers of Flight Museum at Love Field has grown into being a good one, also. Between those and the small ones on the Fort Worth side, we're blessed with some good collections around here.

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8. May 21, 2019

### TXFlyGuy

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It's a matter of perspective. Almost anybody can get a ride in a 172. Quite pedestrian, if you know what I mean. Getting a flight in a real P-51 Mustang, that is a combat survivor? Priceless.

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9. May 21, 2019

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The Collins Foundation sells time in a TF-51D.

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10. May 21, 2019

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As do the Crazy Horse folks in Florida. With full flight instruction, including an intense ground school. It will cost some \$.

11. May 21, 2019

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They left off the silver paint, too, though.
Nobody gets invasion stripes right. This is pretty sad considering that the historically correct way to do it really isn't too hard:

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Buckets of white and black paint.
Two 4" brushes. (you don't have time to clean a brush)

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By eye, as quickly as you can, by moonlight.

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12. May 22, 2019

### Tiger Tim

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I’ve never flown a Mustang, but I know a few guys who have and they’ve all said the same thing: sometimes it’s best not to meet your heroes. Somehow I still want to learn that lesson myself...

13. May 22, 2019

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Are you talking about people or planes? The Mustang is actually an easy plane to fly. That was one of the things that made it successful... very capable performance with very honest handling.

14. May 22, 2019

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Last week, I was talking to a pilot who flew P-38’s and P-47’s in WW II. He had flown a P-51 a few months ago and he was not impressed. He said that aileron forces were too high. He had 20 minutes total time, solo, in a P-47 before he first flew it in combat.

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15. May 22, 2019

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It always takes a frame of reference to get the whole story. Why was the P-51 great? It was because it could fly 600 miles, allow its pilot to dogfight someone who only had to fly 60 in a lighter stripped plane, and then fly 600 miles back. Spitfires were home defense. Bf 109 was close support designed being flown on long missions. Both Spit and 109 being relatively low altitude dogfighters. 190 was home defense. P47 is heavy when war equipped. P 39 and P 40 slow. P38 big and somewhat fragile if flown too fast. They all got placed to best advantages. Non were perfect. The Air Force down plays the P39 and P40 were so bad as fighters in 1942 Europe, that England said take these MkV Spitfires until you come up with a better idea. US pilots flying reverse lend lease Spitfires. For a while they were the only US fighter mission planes. A Zero is supposed to be just a fantastic airplane to fly if flying dogfight speeds. Go fast and it becomes a heavy dog. A P51 is not a Pitts, it was a machine that did a awesome job it was tasked to do after it had teething pains. It also lasted long enough to fight another war. Someone whining about getting to fly any of those great planes is just a lucky stick actuator with no historical reference or knowledge of what he just got to do. They had skill but really were just good enough to get the insurance and pay the bill. Really does injustice to people who had to fly them in war.

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16. May 23, 2019

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I agree. The P-51 ailerons did get heavy at higher speeds... not necessarily a bad (or good) thing. I don’t have any experience in the others you mentioned to compare it to, unless you count the T-6 or the B-17, but those had different roles. I will say that all of the apprehension I had regarding take-offs and landings melted away as soon as I took off and landed. The Mustang ground roll is short enough that it doesn’t last long enough to get you in trouble as long as you follow the rules.

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