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bulldog21

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i,ve seen the various mustangs spitfire's and the war birds inc replica's is there anyone building other more original birds like the p-38 the bell p-39 cobra or a yak ???
 

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actually i was thinking more about starting from scratch building little by little i like the w.a.r int as far as there construction goes my main question would be could the wood frame with foam and glass over it be used to make a 2/3's replica that isn't already offered as a kit i like kit planes don't get me wrong just tired of seeing mustangs spitfire's and war hawk's something different would be refreshing

http://ww2total.com/WW2/Weapons/War-Planes/Fighter-Planes/Russian/Yakovlev/Yak9.htm
http://ww2total.com/WW2/Weapons/War-Planes/Fighter-planes-German-Japanese-Italian.htm
 
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bulldog21

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the more i look at it the more i see the potential for this method of building
Woodframe
it looks like it wouldn't be to hard to enlarge it a lil for some extra room and could be made to look like almost any fighter you would choose but maybe i'm misinformed ???
 

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anyone ever given any thoughts to us, the huddled masses yearning to fly history? how about some almost full size, or 3/4 size plans of WWII planes that can be constructed on a budget of normal fiscal beings? if your talking $2-3,000 just for the plans, what's the budget for materials? my time is free, i'm retired so i've got nothing else to do (i work at that pace also), but i don't know if i've got enough time left, definately don't have enough money, to build an expensive project. cain't all you intelligent folks get together and design a WWII replica which looks great, even if it soars like a bumblebee? i've seen the 1/2 sizes and they look great till they get close to the real thing, then the difference is as noticeable as a moped to a harley. i know, i've champagne taste and a near beer wallet. but like everyone else, when i go to a social gathering (notice i didn't say bar), i want to be with the prettest girl there.
 

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I've got idea's floating around in my brain, but can't decide. And I don't want to yet. I wanna do a warbird build when I can do it right and fully. Other things, you can cut corners, or changes something, but when I'm gonna do my warbird build, I wanna be able to go all out, and right now, that just isn't in the cards. The ideas I have are scale versions of

Fokker DR.I
Grumman F6F
Grumman F8F
Bell P-63
Grumman F3F
Boeing P-26
Hawker Sea Fury
Supermarine Spiteful
Vought F4U

One day I'll sort it all out and figure out which one I like best...
 

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anyone ever given any thoughts to us, the huddled masses yearning to fly history? how about some almost full size, or 3/4 size plans of WWII planes that can be constructed on a budget of normal fiscal beings? if your talking $2-3,000 just for the plans, what's the budget for materials? my time is free, i'm retired so i've got nothing else to do (i work at that pace also), but i don't know if i've got enough time left, definately don't have enough money, to build an expensive project. cain't all you intelligent folks get together and design a WWII replica which looks great, even if it soars like a bumblebee? i've seen the 1/2 sizes and they look great till they get close to the real thing, then the difference is as noticeable as a moped to a harley. i know, i've champagne taste and a near beer wallet. but like everyone else, when i go to a social gathering (notice i didn't say bar), i want to be with the prettest girl there.
The airplane market, even for the most popular idea, is quite limited. For replicas of historical fighters it's even more limited, to the level of being relatively miniscule. In other words, given the effort required to design a functional airplane, the return on investment is quite poor so any development n tis direction is often unjustifiable or, if one does go this route, the end product is so expensive that its market is limited further. And we need to look no further than pas efforts into this realm - virtually every one of them has gone out of business in a very short time. Basically, this is not an issue of intelligence but of simple economics.

The only low cost variants that still survive (and I don't know how well) are the WAR replicas and the lightweight Loehle aircraft (Loehle Aircraft and Aero Coatings Corporation - aircraft paint coatings and replica aircraft kits).
 

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About 15 years ago I built a 5/8 scale P-38 with another engineer but had to sell out my half when he moved to Washington to work for Boeing. We were about 90% finished, and last I heard it flew ok, but was overbuilt, overweight, and underpowered. It barely broke 100 knots in level flight. I'm building something easier now. A P-40 built from a Sonerai 2 airframe, single place sliding canopy.
 

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How about getting Sonerai 2 plans, ($100) midwing, a little foam around to round out the body, and engine section to make it look like a radial, convert it to single place with a sliding canopy, a U.S.S. Enterprise paint job, and viola, you got a WILDCAT. Depending on time and skills, it could be completely built for under $10,000.
 

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Boeing F4B2/P12/Model 100
Designed around the Rotec Radial...
Fuselage is hard riveted aluminum angle/channel, with wood wings.

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Give me two engines and I'll give you one back - on your airframe.

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cavelamb

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Something a little faster?
F8F carrier based interceptor.
Rotec radial engine.
All aluminum structure.
This is a bit larger aircraft.
F8F-Rotec1.JPG
If we can have imaginary engines then...
Double Row Rotec radial 18 cylinder?
F8F-Rotec2.JPG
This one could also morph into a
two seat T28?
 

pylon500

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Boeing F4B2/P12/Model 100
F8F carrier based interceptor.
Don't talk, BUILD.
I have the remains of a Murphy Renegade, and a Rotec!
Soon I hope to have a scaled down Boeing Stearman:ban:
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Project started about three years ago, but other commitments put it on hold till now.
Photo history (three years ago) here;
https://plus.google.com/photos/113292981019876413104/albums/5517491041560340721?banner=pwa
Will try to upload latest photos soon...

Speaking of other replica machines, have you seen this?
Flying Legend | Warbird replica | Costruttori di aerei, manifacture aircraft, veivoli da diporto sportivo, repliche in scala di aerei ultraleggeri, kit assemblaggio aerei
They have/had a Hurricane replica, and now have a Tucano kit availabe :emb:
 

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I was thinking something smaller. Everyone wants bigger and faster. I almost fell into that trap. But what about a little smaller and slower.

Avenger V 015.jpg
If you ask me this looks somewhat like a razer back. Would not take a lot to give it that old fighter look. But its slow and small.
 

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Riggerrob

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A Czech has designed and built an Me.109 replica along with a pair of Yak 3 replicas.
The Yak replicas are 82 percent with steel tube fuselages, but the outer skin is sheet aluminum. One of the Yaks is powered by a Rotax 915 engine turning a 3-bladed propeller.

A couple decades ago, a Russian factory built a batch of full-sized Yak replicas powered by Allison engines. Some were sold to American owners. I chatted with one of the American owners who raced his at Reno. He was a medium-sized guy, but still needed to modify his Yak with a Malcolm hood to provide sufficient head-room.
 
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