Don't give him any ideas - I don't want that thing flying over MY house!I just don't understand why Peter didn't base the Raptor project out of a large airport in flat geography like Mojave or Cal City or Reno Stead. At any of those places he would have had a better area for test flying, and established pools of composites and aero engineering expertise.
Maybe he had a major sponsor or inexpensive labor from the Atlanta area. But picking Cherokee county was a poor choice. There are a half dozen much better choices within a hundred miles of Cherokee County: Rome, Winder, Piedmont/Center, West Georgia, Dalton, Gainsville.I just don't understand why Peter didn't base the Raptor project out of a large airport in flat geography like Mojave or Cal City or Reno Stead. At any of those places he would have had a better area for test flying, and established pools of composites and aero engineering expertise.
Looking at the dimensions posted online and the assembly videos, I think he'll have to remove the outer wings, and twist it along the roll axis to get it down the road. The canards measure just over 15' wide and the stub wings look slightly wider. The other option is to pull the outer wings and the engine/PSRU/Prop, put it on a trailer sideways, and maybe rotate it in pitch to achieve a roadable width. A wide load permit will be required in either case. Not that I know anything about wide load permits, but it looks like Georgia's Maximum is 15'6", but that only applies to certain roads. From Cherokee County, there are possible routes that stay on 4 lane or larger state highways or Interstate highways all the way to the Rome airport.It shouldn't be that difficult to pull the wings and haul it to another airport for the testing. Might need to amend the approved operating area.
Was the Raptor designed to be taken apart ? I seem to remember some bolts securing the the main spar that goes through the cabin to the wing spars.Look like a Grapes of Wrath Okey and he will have pity to get anywhere. Trailer, hull and wing supports, he probably has to cut fairings to get to wing and canard mount bolts. Now how do you insure it. Real value or sneak to save money? To move it will be a big deal. Move it 2400 miles to where he should? Painful. Then he’s got to put it together. Two month adventure to get it apart and back together.
This appears to be the greater part of that adventure. A few miles, probably not a problem. A few dozen miles, probably a different matter. I wonder how kit builders are expected to do it?Wings come off, but the move from the "shop" to the airport proved shipping the "vehicle" anywhere of distance will be a non-trival endeavor
Seems to me that they bought in the chase plane means they were prepared for flight, but found something, or a combo of things that put them off. If you have watched these guys videos, they fly some unknown quantities so it's not like they are ultra-conservative.Still, this is Wasabi's business and .... I kinda feel for Peter here.
I'm sure I'm missing something.
Yup, and for the second time too. If I was Wasabi I would have dumped him after the "cable pulleys" video.I have a feeling the next video will have Peter accusing certain people of wasting his time.
:Boku has left the chat:If I want to be a world class manufacturer of sailplanes I have to move to Germany.
Over width stuff gets hauled all the time. The whole plane isn't over width, just the wing stubs. That makes it a lot easier. I see no problem loading that plane and its wings onto a trailer and hauling it wherever it needs to go. I'm guessing it can be trucked for about $3/mile.Overwidth. over 8' 6" wide and it's easier said then done to just out it on a trailer. It will have to be transported set at 45* angle
It isn't the end of the world to move it. The way some of you talk it is like mission impossible to move it. Peter designed it with removable wings. Once the wings are removed, it can easily be lifted by a tele handler, crane or hoist onto a trailer. The load will be over width, but not over length, height or weight. It is not a big deal to truck such a load.Still comes back down to the entire program, who builds a complete 100% vehicle THEN tests it? His own arrogance and poor decision making is now biting him, I feel nothing for him. That decision making includes knowing he was building a large 5 seat aircraft, and then moving to that 'unsuitable for test flights' airport.
What you on about, I never indicated otherwise, anywhere. In fact I recently moved my plane myself by merely removing the wings and tying the tail down to the towball of my Mazda 6 to get the front wheel off the ground, easy peasy. Got lots of looks driving down the road!It isn't the end of the world to move it. The way some of you talk ...
I don't know how he is going to pay for the move or the rest of the flight test program for that matter. I am not his book keeper.What you on about, I never indicated otherwise, anywhere. In fact I recently moved my plane myself by merely removing the wings and tying the tail down to the towball of my Mazda 6 to get the front wheel off the ground, easy peasy. Got lots of looks driving down the road!
But since he has made his finances surrounding the project very clear, you might enlighten us on how he's going to pay for the move* as it would seem apparent that he doesn't have the funds?
*"move" includes associated costs, hangar, accomodation ect.