# Raptor Composite Aircraft

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#### berridos

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The educational value of this last video was inmense. Thanks Pete.

#### Malish

It's very difficult for me to understand, how come Peter could find almost 150 people, who give him $20,000 each for this problem aircraft? Maybe He is very good sales person? #### BJC ##### Well-Known Member HBA Supporter It's very difficult for me to understand, how come Peter could find almost 150 people, who give him$20,000 each for this problem aircraft? Maybe He is very good sales person?
there is a saying in the USA, "A sucker is born every minute."

It applies to, among others, people who are ready to believe in things that are too good to be true.

BJC

#### Hot Wings

##### Grumpy Cynic
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there is a saying in the USA, "A sucker is born every minute."
BJC
If that were true back in the mid 1800 when the phrase was alleged to have been created, then if the birth rate has remained constant that works out to a little more than one every 6 seconds today.

#### Turd Ferguson

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It's very difficult for me to understand, how come Peter could find almost 150 people, who give him \$20,000 each for this problem aircraft? Maybe He is very good sales person?
Same here but what is even more difficult to understand is that there seems to be people who are on board with buying the aircraft after watching development videos. Just a bump in the road (or runway).

#### cheapracer

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there is a saying in the USA, "A sucker is born every minute."

It applies to, among others, people who are ready to believe in things that are too good to be true.

BJC
I finally watched the video ... and not shaking my head so much at the craft issues, that are shocking, but I don't think anyone is surprised at the result, but shaking my head at the 550 likes the video has... The Blind leading The Blind.

Why can they not understand that this craft is over riding the operator, he loses basic control, and there's not a car, bike, or any vehicle or machine that can be allowed to do that.

#### flywheel1935

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Seems that Peter Perfect is almost more concerned about getting his videos out at regular intervals, to his band of fawning 'disciples',( 99.9% don't seem to have a clue how an aircraft works). This is almost developing into a 'soap drama', where our gallant hero, fights his dragon, and finally flys off into the blue yonder, while all his 'followers' dream of replicating his achievement. ( Me thinks this is not how this drama/saga will really end!!!) All I see is a pile of crumpled carbon ? Watch this space every Tuesday and Saturday,

#### MechEngr32

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One has to admit that he is **** sincere. I would have buried that video in the garden in 2 meters depth and instead state i had the flu and couldnt publish a video this week. If he stays as disciplined with his transparency effort, we could end up watching his body in the news teared in pieces after the crash.
I thought the same about “burying the video!” Wonder if he actually has buried some videos? Scary thought...

#### Turd Ferguson

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The videos are edited so you see what he wants you to see. No doubt some material is not published but for the most part I think you see the big picture of what's happening.

#### berridos

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I really doubt he burried any. It cant become uglier.If i would have been in his skin I would have got out of the plane and start to vomit. Maybe this is a new kind of reality show and the 120 deposits are all from time warner. For us, its the perfect entertainment genre.

#### BJC

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... For us, its the perfect entertainment genre.
I knew that there was a pony in there somewhere, and you just found it. Thank you.

BJC

#### MechEngr32

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To say there has been a lot of concerns raised regarding the “re-drive” is an understatement. The latest video got me thinking about the p-factor effect on that flimsy drive system on climb-out. If he is having so many issues taxiing what will happen on a full power climb? How good are all of his mount points in the rest of the project?

#### Malish

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the p-factor effect on that flimsy drive system on climb-out. If he is having so many issues taxiing what will happen on a full power climb? How good are all of his mount points in the rest of the project?
I did address this issue on Russian forum of experimental aviation, and not only that problem - there so many problems with Raptor aircraft:
http://www.reaa.ru/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1455911054/3139#3139

#### wsimpso1

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To say there has been a lot of concerns raised regarding the “re-drive” is an understatement. The latest video got me thinking about the p-factor effect on that flimsy drive system on climb-out. If he is having so many issues taxiing what will happen on a full power climb? How good are all of his mount points in the rest of the project?
While we have been concerned about the ability of the current reduction drive to run reliably at full power (should the engine be able to make full power) and we are concerned about the variable relationship between the driving and driven sprockets, I have not seen anything that concerned me (yet) about the stiffness and strength of the prop shaft and its attachment to either the prop or to the airframe. Our big concern has been that the engine and driving sprocket are moving on its mounts independant of the driven sprocket, making the cog belt (and perhaps the sprockets too) short lived and inclined to fail.

Have you noted any particular lack of robustness or undersize in the prop shaft and its mounting that would give concern? In more typical arrangements, the prop is restrained through the drive and engine, then to the engine mounts, with flexibility of the mounts being present and accommodated with clearances to engine and prop. This is not to say that Peter does not have a problem with this, just that we have not noticed anything there yet...

Billski

#### berridos

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In this case we really shouldnt worry about spionage.

#### BoKu

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LOL, 3100+ posts, the Russians are beating us Guys!!
One per pound.