Plane hits building in Austin... more fodder for HS/TSA?

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  1. Feb 18, 2010 #1

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    Just saw in the news where a small plane (reportedly a Cherokee) hit the Federal building in Austin, Texas. Though eyewitness reports from the public-at-large for airplane accidents tend to be wildly inaccurate, reports here all tend to support the view that the engine was running at a high power setting and the plane appeared to make a last second turn into the building. My initial impression from the reports are that it may have been intentional, though I am hoping it was not. I think that it is noteworthy that the IRS civil enforcement and criminal investigations office is on the first floor of the building right where the plane impacted.

    Officials and Federal agency reps at the scene are calling it an accident, with no indication of international terrorism. Let's hope that this is not used to increase regulations and restrictions on small private planes.
     
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    CNN is saying it was intentional...
     
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    It wasn't an FAA building, perchance....?
     
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    IRS
     
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    Unless they have a notice (letter, recording, old threat) from the pilot, the news can only speculate, but as I said, I too think it was intentional based on facts revealed from the many uniform eyewitness reports. And, no, it was not the FAA office (not sure if they had any offices there), but the point of impact was the IRS office, which makes this more likely to be intentional in my view.
     
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    More evidence of intent... CNN is reporting that the pilot set fire to his own home just prior to flying the plane into the building. They also report that he stole the plane.
     
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    He apparently might have set his house on fire before he took off.

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    apparently he had a suicide note:

     
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    Wow...
     
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    If he'd put at least a little blame on himself he could have made a few bucks as a writer. And BTW, what does the FAA have to do with any of this?
     
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    The FAA just said this:

    "Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Lynn Lunsford said the pilot took off from nearby Georgetown but didn't file a flight plan. FAA records show that a Piper PA-28 Cherokee with the same tail number as the plane that flew into the building is registered to Joseph A. Stack."

    So it looks like he didn't steal the plane. He owned it.
     
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    Well, the NEWS and the FACTS are not always in agreement.
     
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    Very disturbing, more information will of course come to light rather quickly. Of course much will be made of the fact an single engine owner operator did this, now what's to be done to prevent it from happening again. Sadly an emotionally disturbed man sought out a very public way to take his own life, with the intention of taking others as well... I wish he could have simply sought professional help and moved on with his life...very sad.
     
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    If he was that hard up, how is it he still owned a plane?

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    For all the talk he has about some people screwing a large amount of others, did he ever take into account that his actions will (if not have) screwed the general aviation population as a whole? I always wonder how much I will get to use this $8,000 I'm investing in flight training before flying become illegal.

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    I'm sure he isn't the first person to have an airplane that was having money problems. I wonder how long it will take for his entire history to come to light and all of the inter departmental finger pointing in Washington to start.
     
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    EAA calls it "the actions of a disturbed individual"; I would disagree that he was "disturbed, judging by the tone of his suicide note. While we may never know all sides to this story, it is not an uncommon one - who has not heard similar tales about the dealings with the IRS and how individuals have been driven to extremes? I have heard similar stories countless times; most of us have.

    He hardly strikes me a raving lunatic, just an individual driven to extremes through his frustrations with dealing with the IRS - many people will be able to relate, at least to some degree.

    I just wish he hadn't chosen an airplane as his method of getting his point across.
     
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    I concur with PT's assessment.
     
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    My guess is the IRS was about to seize all his assets. He beat em too it. Burned his home also.

    Unfortunately we probably will see more acts of desperation as our economy slips deeper into the Made In China depression. Family men that are forced out of their homes while Bank CEO's are rewarded with millions for credit default swaps and the likes. I truly feel this man's pain. We are just holding on by a thread. I have been selling all my treasures on e-bay, things I have bought over the years and now forced to sell at a fraction of what I paid for them. Mr Stack has some legitimate points our politicians have failed us in a big way. Allowing our manufacturing to be outsourced. Our trade deficit will burden our children for the next century. All to make a handful of people ultra ultra ultra rich.

    Very sad indeed for all the victims.
     
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    Great.
     

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