New Canard Design - Oshkosh 2016

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  1. May 26, 2016 #21

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    I wouldn't mind a Long-EZ, or even a Varieze, however the stall speed is the biggie, both stall higher than 45 knots.

    Now if someone came up with a Long-EZ type which stalls Sub 45 Knt, 600Kg MTOW, two people, able to handle reasonable grass strips rather than long paved runways, then I would be interested.
     
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  2. Jul 14, 2016 #22

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    Just a reminder.....
    In two weeks we should have completed our project at Oshkosh with the reveal occurring on Friday morning, 7/29.
    Looking forward to seeing you there.

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  3. Jul 19, 2016 #23

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    For those who are interested in learning more about Vacuum Infusion, here is the schedule.

    Advanced Composite Infusion
    Monday, July 25 · 4:00 PM - 5:15 PM
    Forum Stage 5

    Advanced Composite Infusion Demo 1
    Tuesday, July 26 · 10:00 AM - 4:30 PM
    Replica Fighters HQ

    Advanced Composite Infusion Demo 2
    Wednesday, July 27 · 10:00 AM - 4:30 PM
    Replica Fighters HQ

    Advanced Composite Infusion Demo 3
    Thursday, July 28 · 10:00 AM - 4:30 PM
    Replica Fighters HQ

    Advanced Composite Infusion Reveal
    Friday, July 29 · 10:30 AM - 12:30 PM
    Replica Fighters HQ
     
  4. Jul 19, 2016 #24

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    This would be possible if a three airfoil variant was developed and the rear wing was straightened out. But it wouldn't look like an EZ anymore (more like an Avanti-lite).
     
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    Can't wait to see you guys there.
     
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    Here you go...

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    Well it was quite an experience and learning opportunity.

    I got to Oshkosh Sunday around noon in time to help setup the tents where the demo was going to take place.



    Monday was spent sealing and the molds (7 coats) and then adding another 7 coats of release.



    Tuesday and Wednesday were spent installing the actual dry fabric and core materials. Those who were there can confirm, we experienced the typical EAA event weather and it did rain ..... a bunch on Wednesday.



    Thursday started out raining at 8:15 AM. Temp was not as desired. We had 8 molds that we were infusing. The first four were using a urethane based resin system. This was used on the Star Lite aircraft fuselage. The Endurance epoxy system was used for the new canard design. All materials were donated by several different sponsors. One of those products was a combination peel-ply and flow media. We had this in the first four molds for the Star Lite. We discovered that it would not hold up when using the urethane resin.



    In reality, this is the best situation when doing a demo like this. If everything goes right, you never learn the techniques to resolve the issues as they came up. Russ Emanis showed how to identify problem areas and then resolve them.



    So after identifying the conflict between the urethane resin and the flow media, we set about pulling the bags off the other three molds and reverted back to the proven Greenflow and peel-ply. The parts were re-plumbed and we built new bags. By now we were getting pretty proficient at doing this but after all, we needed to get 7 more parts to infuse.



    So of course it starts raining again. At this point we have 4 of the 8 infused.

    Work continued until 10:30 to get all 8 infused. After the second wave of rain the temperature really dropped.



    Friday morning comes and the parts are too green to de-mold. There was a review of everything we did during the course of the week. Once the sun came out, we moved the molds out from under the tents so they could warm up. By late afternoon they were pretty much cured.



    Saturday morning the parts were de-molded and on display.

    A picture of the upper fuselage half is pictured below.



    So here's what we have:

    We built the parts in a tent in really crappy weather conditions using new molds that had never had parts pulled from them and still came up with some beautiful parts.



    Imagine what we could do in a controlled environment.

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    I saw the molds--we were parked directly behind the tent until Tuesday morning. Like, the first airplane, right there. Blue and yellow RV with nose art. I wanted to watch the demo but we were only there for a short time. I stopped by on Monday afternoon while some guys were putting release agent on them.
     
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    Do these guys have a website, I'd love to learn more about their designs?
     
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    It was my great pleasure visiting that presentation last week. Wonderful experience, amazing people, many thanks for your invitation Tom!
     
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    Jeff Kerlo is the man behind this design. In according to his reference - this plane was designed in sketch data more than 20 years ago. It does not have any name yet if I am not mistaken. In order to see read and feel about that wonderful journey that Tom has introduced to us please visit the sponsor's web site INNEGRA TECH
     
  13. Aug 4, 2016 #33

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    I have a personal website you can go to , however the little canard design is not listed on it. Russ and I will be establishing a website dedicated to the little single place canard and its development in the very near future.


    here is the link : Jeff Kerlo experiemental aircraft concept developer and design visionary.Look!! It's an EZ, it's a Velocity, It's a Phoenix, it's a V-Raptor, it's a Volta Volare GT-4! NO, it's JEFF KERLO's ORION! Faster than a Speeding Bullet ?? Able to leap small c


    Jeff K
     
  14. Aug 5, 2016 #34

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    I am easily confused; sorry. How is this related or not to the Peter Muller Raptor? Thanks

    Blue skies,

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  15. Aug 5, 2016 #35

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    This is a completely separate enterprise put together by Jeff and Russ.
    Jeff works on both.
     
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    Any more details about the airframe, intended airframe, rough dimensions and weights?
     
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    Good to meet you there. It really was a fantastic experience.
    By the way, the weight of the upper & lower fuselage halves (prior to removing the peel-ply, flow media and trimming was 26 lbs. as pictured.
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    [video]https://youtu.be/JF1XEsZelPI[/video]

    Great little animation of the aircraft.
     
  19. Aug 11, 2016 #39

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    I dont see any inlet scoops in the animation, is that for the 2 jet version or the jabaru? Or is it still more of an artistic rendition?
     
  20. Aug 11, 2016 #40

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    What it's not is a flying real-world aircraft. I get tired of seeing computer animations of stuff that's being touted for sale (even eventual sale), but hasn't even flown yet. The lack of business discipline in such endeavors is troublesome, and history shows that concern is justified.
     
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