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wwz7777

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Hello all,

Here’s a drawing of an aircraft that I saw while hiking last week.

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It appeared to be about 4-6000’ above me and was moving pretty quickly . It wasn’t silent but made very little noise. The vertical surface appeared to extend above and below the wing. There was no fuselage behind the wing. The main gear and vertical surfaces could only be seen by sun glints whenever it turned.
I’m not familiar with aircraft this small so I have no ideas.
Thoughts, guesses?

Cheers!
 

TFF

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Recent discussion with a friend about the Edmund Scientific Catalog, I say balloon. I imagine it was a drone.
 

Wanttaja

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Dyke Delta? Doesn't match the gear, and the tail doesn't extend below, but the planform is similar.
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Ron Wanttaja
 

wwz7777

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It didn’t appear to be an RC aircraft. The turns were wide and not jerky. The last I saw it, it was heading North towards Hermosillo, Mexico. We were in the the mountains and I didn’t see an operator. And it wasn’t a quad-copter or anything drone-like that I’ve seen.
 

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FMX-4 | eaa292 - it was taxi testing and needing covering last year, doesn't exactly meet the profile but closer.


Hatfield little bird - but I think the current owner is here somewhere and it was nowhere close to flying.

Unless someone built an Arup but I think we'd have heard something about that...
 

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Are you sure there was a prop in front? Could be someone sticking a trike under a Woopy Fly. (Which goes under the heading of "I've had worse ideas, but can't think of any right now," in my mind.)
 

robertl

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Hello all,

Here’s a drawing of an aircraft that I saw while hiking last week.

View attachment 107547
It appeared to be about 4-6000’ above me and was moving pretty quickly . It wasn’t silent but made very little noise. The vertical surface appeared to extend above and below the wing. There was no fuselage behind the wing. The main gear and vertical surfaces could only be seen by sun glints whenever it turned.
I’m not familiar with aircraft this small so I have no ideas.
Thoughts, guesses?

Cheers!
I believe there was something like that from back in the 30's or 40's. And of course, the military in the 50's.
 

wwz7777

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Well, maybe it was an RC model, but where we were there are no paved areas or roads. Just a lot of rocks, dirt, and scrub brush. Oh well....

Thanks for the ideas!
 

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Who said it was small? A Predator could easily carry a person. One reason the FAA was caught out with small drones was it was concentrating on big ones that the aerospace companies were pushing. 2007 to be exact. Small ones just happened to evade the FAA until it was big business. 1000+ lb drones fly every day, you just can’t go to the hobby shop and get one. The whole point of ADSB is that it will allow drones to “see” you.
 

Kamcoman77

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Hello all,

Here’s a drawing of an aircraft that I saw while hiking last week.

View attachment 107547
It appeared to be about 4-6000’ above me and was moving pretty quickly . It wasn’t silent but made very little noise. The vertical surface appeared to extend above and below the wing. There was no fuselage behind the wing. The main gear and vertical surfaces could only be seen by sun glints whenever it turned.
I’m not familiar with aircraft this small so I have no ideas.
Thoughts, guesses?

Cheers!
How bout this?
 

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