# LS3 6.2 V8 Ready To Mount

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#### TXFlyGuy

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Just got back from Titan. They are almost ready to hang the V8 on the fuselage.

#### dcstrng

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Impressive -- the sound alone should keep you smiling for a month or so...

#### ekimneirbo

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Someone did some nice welding there. Are those just for looks rather than the actual exhaust for the engine ? The LS3 is an awesome engine.........

#### TXFlyGuy

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Someone did some nice welding there. Are those just for looks rather than the actual exhaust for the engine ? The LS3 is an awesome engine.........
These are functional stacks. The first and last pipe are non-functional, the middle 4 are live exhaust ports. The sound is awesome!

#### mcrae0104

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Just got back from Titan. They are almost ready to hang the V8 on the fuselage.
Tex, I genuinely mean no offense, but is this truly a "homebuilt" airplane? You seem to post a lot about the paint job you're going to buy, the engine someone else is hanging, and the avionics someone else installed. (Disclaimer: I have not built an aircraft, so I don't have a leg to stand on.)

#### TXFlyGuy

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Tex, I genuinely mean no offense, but is this truly a "homebuilt" airplane? You seem to post a lot about the paint job you're going to buy, the engine someone else is hanging, and the avionics someone else installed. (Disclaimer: I have not built an aircraft, so I don't have a leg to stand on.)
We built the center section, fuel tanks, many items in the fuselage, etc. It will meet the 51% rule. The FAA has no problem with items like avionics being professionally installed. They do not care who paints the plane, or if it gets painted.

We are spending time at the factory getting "hands on" time as well. There are a number of items that are beyond the skill set of most of us...like building the control surfaces, spar, motor mounts, etc.

This is simply Titan's Builder Assist Program that we are taking advantage of!

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#### cheapracer

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Tex, I genuinely mean no offense, but is this truly a "homebuilt" airplane? You seem to post a lot about the paint job you're going to buy, the engine someone else is hanging, and the avionics someone else installed. (Disclaimer: I have not built an aircraft, so I don't have a leg to stand on.)
I have no issue at all with that type of build other than jealousy. Add that some people genuinely have no time or skillz, or both.

As long as the person doesn't stand on a plinth and put down others who are struggling to achieve their goals who's bank account obviously isn't quite as flush.

Great build Tex, looking forward to the result.

#### TXFlyGuy

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I have no issue at all with that type of build other than jealousy. Add that some people genuinely have no time or skillz, or both.

As long as the person doesn't stand on a plinth and put down others who are struggling to achieve their goals who's bank account obviously isn't quite as flush.

Great build Tex, looking forward to the result.
There are many "hands on" photos on the Project: Mustang FB page. Much of this project was built in a local school that has an aviation program. My skills in the building area are limited. Thus, we have recruited others to help along the way. All the time keeping a careful eye (and hand) on the situation.

Those who can undertake a project like this solo have earned my respect and admiration. Much of this requires two sets (or more) of hands and eyes.

Bank account? This has cost 50% more than what we originally estimated. Much of that being the gear doors and avionics. But worth every penny invested!

#### cheapracer

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This has cost 50% more than what we originally estimated.!
As they say, I hope when I die my wife doesn't sell my toys for what I told her I paid for them! :gig:

#### gtae07

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We built the center section, fuel tanks, many items in the fuselage, etc. It will meet the 51% rule. The FAA has no problem with items like avionics being professionally installed. They do not care who paints the plane, or if it gets painted.

We are spending time at the factory getting "hands on" time as well. There are a number of items that are beyond the skill set of most of us...like building the control surfaces, spar, motor mounts, etc.

This is simply Titan's Builder Assist Program that we are taking advantage of!
The 51% rule is extremely heavily tilted towards primary structure and firewall-forward items like baffling and control brackets. The entire electrical, avionics, and fuel systems together comprise six steps on the kit checklist. You get more credit for building your elevators than you do for almost all of your systems work.

This kind of rankles me a bit as an aircraft systems engineer, but I can see about three different sides to it all. For one, the overwhelming majority of early homebuilts, and still a fair number of current ones, are very simple on the systems side and have little in the way of dependency on those beyond making sure the engine keeps getting fuel. You don't really need electrical and avionics to build a viable homebuilt, so the FAA sort of considers them "optional".

Then again, on aircraft that do have involved wiring and systems work, that stuff takes up a significant portion of the build time. It seems a bit of a slight that someone who legitimately wires up a full-glass IFR homebuilt with electronic injection himself gets less credit for that than a guy who pop-rivets together elevators from a pre-punched kit.

To the third point, though, it's comparatively rare for a homebuilt to crash due to a structural failure. Systems-related failures (including powerplant systems) comprise the majority of accidents with some kind of aircraft failure; the FAA may consider it a safety benefit to let the complex stuff be done by professional shops at minimal penalty to the builder (which is also why I suspect they've interpreted the rules more leniently than one might expect on structural items in kits and builder-assist programs).

#### Chris In Marshfield

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Direct drive or geared? Kinda tough to tell from the photo, but the image makes it look like there's an offset for a gearbox. Of course it's on an engine stand

Looks great!

#### TXFlyGuy

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Direct drive or geared? Kinda tough to tell from the photo, but the image makes it look like there's an offset for a gearbox. Of course it's on an engine stand

Looks great!
The PSRU is 1.9 - 1, from Autoflight / Titan. Manufactured in New Zealand.

#### TXFlyGuy

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This is what she will look like very soon...

#### BoeveP51

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Really nice work, if I had a barrel of cash I would be up there with you. You don't want to know how long it has taken me to get where I am. It takes a lot of hands, effort and MONEY to get there. I only have two hands, taking me a bit longer... Will not get into the cash situation

#### TXFlyGuy

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Really nice work, if I had a barrel of cash I would be up there with you. You don't want to know how long it has taken me to get where I am. It takes a lot of hands, effort and MONEY to get there. I only have two hands, taking me a bit longer... Will not get into the cash situation
We have spread the cost out over 3.5 years. That includes the time that Titan was building our kit at the factory prior to us taking delivery. While it is expensive, you can make it less painful.

Yes, it requires many hands. Those that think they can build this "solo" need to think again.

My most valuable asset in this whole affair has been my wife. Why? Because she has never complained about the \$ I have spent on this project. It is a big help when your spouse is on board...figuratively, and literally.

#### TXFlyGuy

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The engine is mounted. The fuselage is now on the wing, with the hydraulics functioning. The landing gear and inner gear doors are fully operational. The photo is a month old, so many changes since then!

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#### TXFlyGuy

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Actual exhaust installed. It has been modified from the first version.

#### TXFlyGuy

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Ceramic coating of the exhaust. Performance Coatings of Arlington, Texas did the work. And a very nice job.

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