Light weight (and) inexpensive wheels/brakes for LSA

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    wb2754

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    What ideas are floating out there about economical wheels and brakes for a 1300ish lb LSA like a Maranda? I fly helicopters for a living, so I am not very in the know about wheels and brakes.
    Has anyone used alternatives like motorcycle, scooter or other types brakes?
     
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    Most of the HBs I've worked on used Cleveland brakes. On some of the Ultralights I've researched, some have used brakes off of smaller motorcycles, or even bicycle disc brakes. The brakes on my Triumph could be adapted as it is just a caliper and the disc. The Nissen brakes on my bike will drag that sucker down from LWS (Low Warp Speeds) to legal in nothing flat. Replacement rotors can be bought and drilled as needed. Depends on your application, not Type Accepted, but for an experimental....!

    As for the comment about flying a helicopter and thus asking about brakes....there is a joke hiding in that comment somewhere. I'm sure that one of our resident jokesters can bring it out.

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    Matco has some nice stuff. Many of the LSA Cubs and Bearhawks are using them with the smoothie tires.
     
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    Matco is used on a lot LSA. Seem to work fine on the wife's Rans S6.
     
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    Azusa wheels and brakes, at least for lighter aircraft.

    I am not too impressed with their brakes. However, O'Keefe Aero makes some very nice hydraulic disc brakes usable up to 1200 pounds, of which I have a pair (don't remember paying $329 for them, though. Price must have gone up.)
     
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    Possibly because many helicopters don't have wheels.
     
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    I'm at Mother Rucker also. MTP with AFS on 67s and 72s. Are you IP or MTP?
     
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    The Matco products look good.

    Does anyone have any experience or knowledge about internal vs external caliper? All the fixed wing acft I have flown had external calipers (Cessnas and Pipers). Is there any advantage?
     
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    Aside from the cable operated Asuza drums, which are not known for their effectiveness but are certainly cheap and light, I have heard pretty good things about the Black Max brake sets. They include axles and wheels and run about $450 for the lighter duty (1320 lb) set with single motorcycle-style hand lever and no tires up to $760 for their heavier duty (1500 lb) set with dual toe brakes and 18-800 x 6 tires.

    http://www.blackmaxbrakes.com/
     
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    Any idea on what the black Max wheels would save in weight compared to my Clevland 6"

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    Tracy O'Brien brakes worked OK on my Kolb Firestar. Not great or perfect, but worked. Matco stuff is good, especially their tailwheeld. Grove stuff is very high quality, and as good as certified
     
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    I really liked the Black Max brakes on my Kolb. My Fisher 404 had Azusa cable operated drums, which were pretty wimpy. I bought some scooter disk brakes (also cable operated), but sold the plane before I ever had a chance to try them.
     
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    Sorry, no, I don't have those numbers handy.

     

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