J3 based Pietenpol

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  1. Aug 25, 2018 #1

    Little Scrapper

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    I didn't know where to put this so figured I'd start a thread. It's just too cool not to share.

    I can only find 3 photos. I'd love to learn more about this, it's beautiful!

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    I know I have seen it, probably on HBA. I think they had the tail feathers so they incorporated them. I prefer the E2 for the full Cub parasol experience.
     
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    That tail really changes the looks. Does it have the Pietenpol wing? It's hard to tell from the photo.
     
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    The Piper outline doesn't look all that out of place -- except, probably, to heartfelt Piet aficionados... Always liked the general idea of the Piet parasol -- I have enough tubing to put together a GN-1 style (the tube variant ) fuselage and the wings and empennage components of an aborted CH750 project and have wondered what it might look like... oh well, only fantasies..
     
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    As close to size as these aircraft are, you can really see that the Cub is a bigger airplane. The Cub vertical is a lot bigger than the Piet one. It throws off the proportion some.
     
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    It would be fun to figure out a Frankenstein type airplane where it's like 5 or 6 or the coolest airplanes in one.
     
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    General Motors (Fisher) P-75 Eagle:
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    Prototype had wings (and canopy) from a P-40 Warhawk, tail from a Douglas SBD (actually the Army A-24 variant), landing gear from a Vought Corsair, layout based on the P-39.

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    Didn't Johnny Cash have a song about that? Oh, wait. That was about a Cadillac.;)
     
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    I am assuming you mean the tail in pictures #1 and #2, and not #3?;)
     
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    That is not a safe assumption!
     
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    Well, this is supposed to be a family friendly forum, isn't it?
     
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    I think the ‘Pietenpol’ in the first post may be a Grega GN-1, which was designed to use as many J-3 parts as possible while looking mostly like a Piet. One common identifying feature of the GN-1 is that the landing gear is straight off a Cub and the rear edge of the gear leg comes up to about half way between the wing struts.
     
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    See http://www.westcoastpiet.com/faq's.htm for a quick discussion of the differences between the original Pietenpol and the Grega interpretation. I think the GN-1 was a great idea back when J-3 parts were cheap and easy to find, now that is definitely not the case, so personally I'd just built an original Piet'.
     
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    I like the Grega better than the Piet. Like the Cub airfoil better than the Piet's airfoil.
    Picture of Grega that used to be on our field. Had a C-75 and the two piece wing. Also a Corvair powered Piet and a A-65 HP Yellow Piet.
    I have flown in cross country flights with the Grega and Yellow Piet with my SSSC and had to fly 2500 rpm or less to stay back with them and could out climb both at 2650 rpm.
     

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    A friend built two Piets with steel tube fuselages but I am pretty sure they are Piets not GN1s. One had ken Royce 80hp and one has aFord B. He sold the radial. He has probably owned a hundred airplanes. Built and rebuilt half of them. There is the two people tho built Piets one traditional and one with modern airfoil. Modern airfoil did no better and overall was not as good. The plane works as a pretty good snapshot of the time. It's when what it is does not work for you really means you need a different airplane than tart it up more than cosmetics.
     
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    One of our Fly Baby owners has some time in a Piet, with both the original Model A engine and a Continental O-200. His impressions of the aircraft can be found here:

    http://www.bowersflybaby.com/stories/piet.html

    Ron Wanttaja
     
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    I like #3!
     

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