M, I heard person after person at the workshop express an interest in a modestly-performing, self-launching sailplane or motorglider. Every single one of them who said it out loud got a "yes, but performance," or "Sure, that's ... nice" response from the speakers or the panel, except Neil, whose presentation was arguing the same thing - we don't have to have top performance in Every. Single. Glider., and there are other factors that are important, too, and that sometimes, for some missions, those factors outweigh absolute aerodynamic performance. The single aircraft type mentioned in the presentations on either day, that got the most actual interest in terms of enthusiasm from the audience, was when Neil was talking about restoring the three AS-K14's going/gone through his shop. What does that say? I came away from this event energized and wound-up for my own effort, as always, but also down-hearted and ever-more-convinced that, like PiperCrusin's impression, if we continue on with current attitudes, the sport's future is "hopeless" in the US. I'm still going to continue soaring, but at this rate it'll end up with me on my own in a self-launcher, because the clubs and FBOs will be gone if we continue the way we're going now and, even if they aren't, I'm getting tired of dealing with the elitist attitudes.