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TarDevil

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So you called me a conspiracy theorist without lifting a finger to type “Facebook photo verification” into google to check to see if what saying is true ....so you’re just going on feelings and a hunch..... I’m not going to call you any names...other then typical
Of course I looked at "Facebook Photo Verification."
New and existing users aren't required.
It was created in cases of "suspicious activity" or folks uploading nude photos.

Have you done either?

Sell to China? Seriously?

Sorry, Mods. Back on topic.
 

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your excuse if
So what, Facebook knows what a couple of billion people look like, it's to protect you.

Biometerics are offered out every time you open the internet, nothing new. My biggest risk is seeing incontinence nappy adverts, oh the horror!

Here's one for you: You know those "I am not a Robot" verification squares to access a page? Your entire recent browsing history habits are checked in mere milliseconds to prove your not a Robot. If you look at porno on the net, you will be approved faster because Robots don't open porn sites. There's your excuse if your Wife catches you.





You jest, that sort of stuff has been going on for a hundred years, Facebook is just another avenue, not THE avenue.
You have the right to remain silent....The Pilar of western freedom..

....you wish to speak at all times and in all directions ...that’s your right and choice

But I ask you to defend my choices as you expect me to defend yours...
 

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Of course I looked at "Facebook Photo Verification."
New and existing users aren't required.
It was created in cases of "suspicious activity" or folks uploading nude photos.

Have you done erither?

Sorry, Mods. Back on topic.
So you never read what I wrote.., I’ve never even posted anything to Facebook... ever...

I’ve been on Facebook for 2 hours in 10 years... if that
 

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Anyways.... I’m going to post the obvious

Aviation is a matter of life and death

We don’t say it... but it’s the truth

If I’m going to be involved in anything ... I’m going to improve it and leave it in better condition then when I found it

I will be exploring doing a Yamaha engine conversion... and since it’s my a$$ wrtting the cheque’s I’m going to try to influence things for my benefit and others safety... call me selfish

This engine needs a focus point...if it’s decided that Facebook is where that will be... and by the sounds of it the management here has no interest and thinks Facebook is the cats meow ... then so be it

For those interested in Yamaha engine conversions ... please refer to Facebook group “Yamaha engine conversions” as the main source of information ...it has over 4000 members...

God speed and good luck...

Have a good day
 
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Same goes with the other conversion options. VW isn’t included because that’s pretty darn figured out nowadays.
There are a couple of things that work against the Yamaha and many other engines if we are talking about mass adoption in airplanes. Can you get them cheaply as a crate engine? Third party competition for many parts? Depending on wrecks/salvage yards is >fine< (or even preferable) for an experienced motorhead, but a real bar, right out of the gate, to a newbie. And it is a big obstacle to someone wanting to sell conversion parts, books, or turnkey engines. Finding and assessing suitable used engines takes time, and time is money.
Also, these little engines have frequent changes from one model year to the next. It's not hard to become an orphan.
These may become another good option for dedicated engine folks. But, there are serious challenges to widescale adoption by regular builders. Probably little handholding.
 

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Anyways.... I’m going to post the obvious

Aviation is a matter of life and death

We don’t say it... but it’s the truth

If I’m going to be involved in anything ... I’m going to improve it and leave it in better condition then when I found it

I will be exploring doing a Yamaha engine conversion... and since it’s my a$$ wrtting the cheque’s I’m going to try to influence things for my benefit and others safety... call me selfish

This engine needs an a focus point...if it’s decided that Facebook is where that will be... and by the sounds of it the management here has no interest and thinks Facebook is the cats meow ... then so be it

For those interested in Yamaha engine conversions ... pleae refer to Facebook group “Yamaha engine conversions” as the main source of information ...it has over 4000 members...

God speed and good luck...

Have a good day
That was fast. Patience, grasshopper. You suggested this about 24 hours ago and nobody from "management" has said no, or yes.
 

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For Scrapper, put the Continental on and fly. If you want the Yam, finish the Baby with the Continental and start a new project. I’m rooting for you to get this done; don’t distract yourself.

I hope the Yam can become a go to option. I hope someone makes it simple. I don’t see anyone here cutting metal. Everyone is waiting for someone else to do it. I wish and wish and wish. Wish sandwich. There was a guy here years ago trying a direct drive Honda. I think a LS motor guy too who at least built an adapter and a stand and tried. Engines are cool because they are little complex machines. Electric has no fascination in clockwork motion; it’s an escape of that faction. If you like engines, you like the monkey motion, and if you focus on it too much you forget the airplane.

The guys who are flying behind something alternate almost always had the airplane going and wanted a different engine. For whatever reason. The airplane existed before not because.
 

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I’m no expert...
As far as I know there are only 2 variations at this point... carberated and fuel injected...

Carbs are 2001 to 2003 .... fuel injected from 2004 to 2006...

Maybe someone else can chime in... but it looks like from my reading there were no factory tweaks over the years...

In my research over these past few weeks I’ve seen no mention of changes but maybe I missed it
 

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For Scrapper, put the Continental on and fly. If you want the Yam, finish the Baby with the Continental and start a new project. I’m rooting for you to get this done; don’t distract yourself.

I hope the Yam can become a go to option. I hope someone makes it simple. I don’t see anyone here cutting metal. Everyone is waiting for someone else to do it. I wish and wish and wish. Wish sandwich. There was a guy here years ago trying a direct drive Honda. I think a LS motor guy too who at least built an adapter and a stand and tried. Engines are cool because they are little complex machines. Electric has no fascination in clockwork motion; it’s an escape of that faction. If you like engines, you like the monkey motion, and if you focus on it too much you forget the airplane.

The guys who are flying behind something alternate almost always had the airplane going and wanted a different engine. For whatever reason. The airplane existed before not because.



Plenty more where these came from!
 

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130-160 HP is going to be way too much for Scrapper's Baby Ace. I hope he's referring to the 80HP 2 cyl. version, which may well be viable.

But, the Baby Ace airframe was designed, even perhaps optimized for the A-65. So it's going to be a lot of work to re-do the entire front end of the airplane, regardless of how good or how efficient the sled engine is.

Just for a moment, imagine that I went on a snowmobile forum and wanted to discuss me mounting a Continental aircraft engine on a sled... how well would I be received by those guys? What do you think the most frequent comments would be?
 

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I’m no expert...
As far as I know there are only 2 variations at this point... carberated and fuel injected...

Carbs are 2001 to 2003 .... fuel injected from 2004 to 2006...

Maybe someone else can chime in... but it looks like from my reading there were no factory tweaks over the years...

In my research over these past few weeks I’ve seen no mention of changes but maybe I missed it
This is what I got from Mohawk. Not to keep mentioning them, but they are the ones I have received the most 'gouge' from so far...

I have been trying to establish 2 way comms with Steve Henry who is probably the highest visibility Yamaha operator, to get information from him. When I do, I will pass it along!

Or, Mr. Henry, if you happen across this thread, please, chime in!!
 

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130-160 HP is going to be way too much for Scrapper's Baby Ace. I hope he's referring to the 80HP 2 cyl. version, which may well be viable.

But, the Baby Ace airframe was designed, even perhaps optimized for the A-65. So it's going to be a lot of work to re-do the entire front end of the airplane, regardless of how good or how efficient the sled engine is.

Just for a moment, imagine that I went on a snowmobile forum and wanted to discuss me mounting a Continental aircraft engine on a sled... how well would I be received by those guys? What do you think the most frequent comments would be?
High probability I’ll use a little Continental.

For the Yamaha the Phazer sled motor was a 2 cylinder rated at 80hp. I suspect that’s what would be used. I would never consider the 150hp versions or the APEX from what I Understand.

I would like a VW on it but I’m not sure that’s a good fit for a Baby Ace. I studied up on VW and I kinda like that motor to be honest.

Regardless of me the Yamaha is definitely something worth exploring. I’m in Wisconsin and these sleds are literally everywhere. It’s 4:59pm here and I bet I could make 3 phone calls and have a nice Yamaha motor on my front porch by the time supper is ready.
 

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If memory serves, the Phazer was the engine used in their rotary wing UAS...

Very interesting but the original sled motor was different . I just that back in the day snowmobiles had relatability issues but not the Phazer! That was about as bulletproof as you could get. Yamaha has always been a good engine.

I’m a complete rookie on aircraft conversions but it sounds like the the problem areas are always with the gear box. From what I understand that SkyTrax is suppose to be excellent.
 

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Listen to how sweet this little Phazer sounds. It would be worth figuring this out and fully documenting everything so others can follow.
 

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Very interesting but the original sled motor was different . I just that back in the day snowmobiles had relatability issues but not the Phazer! That was about as bulletproof as you could get. Yamaha has always been a good engine.

I’m a complete rookie on aircraft conversions but it sounds like the the problem areas are always with the gear box. From what I understand that SkyTrax is suppose to be excellent.
Yamaha always has had a reliable engine, so I agree with you! And yes, you are spot on about the PSRUs being the historical weak point. That being said, the SkyTrax box has a great track record, and effectively a plug and play on this engine!
 
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