# Inexpensive Homebuilts... Why?

Discussion in 'General Experimental Aviation Questions' started by Topaz, Sep 9, 2016.

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## Which is the closest reason to why you're interested in "inexpensive" homebuilts?

Poll closed Oct 12, 2016.

1 vote(s)
1.3%

15 vote(s)
20.0%

17 vote(s)
22.7%

2 vote(s)
2.7%

31 vote(s)
41.3%

9 vote(s)
12.0%

1 vote(s)
1.3%

15 vote(s)
20.0%

17 vote(s)
22.7%

2 vote(s)
2.7%

31 vote(s)
41.3%
12. ### I CAN afford many offerings, but can't get the (performance, looks, etc.) in my price range.

9 vote(s)
12.0%
1. Sep 10, 2016

### FritzW

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I think aviation (at least the kind that interests me) is too expensive because we make it too complicated. I like simplicity and simplicity usually goes hand in hand with inexpensive.

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### Toobuilder

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None of the responses fit me, but I do look for good value. My $100+k Rocket is cheap in some circles, high end in others, but I consider it an exceptional bang for the buck. I also enjoy my$10k, 4 GPH auto gas Taylorcraft. I define my mission requirements and then buy what I can afford. "Inexpensive" is not a primary consideration "good value" is.

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3. Sep 10, 2016

### VFR-on-top

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Fly on a regular basis. BINGO!

4. Sep 10, 2016

### Aerowerx

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The last time I flew it was $80 an hour wet (c172). That was about 12 years ago, and I'm sure it hasn't got any better. So I figured the only way I am going to fly again is to build my own. 5. Sep 10, 2016 ### cavelamb ### cavelamb #### Well-Known Member Joined: Nov 27, 2010 Messages: 304 Likes Received: 56 Location: earth Wisdom for the (old) ages... If you want to fly, buy. If you want to build, build. Battler Britton likes this. 6. Sep 10, 2016 ### Topaz ### Topaz #### Super ModeratorStaff Member Joined: Jul 30, 2005 Messages: 13,963 Likes Received: 5,577 Location: Orange County, California Certainly wise, but not the question at hand in this particular poll. I'm interested in knowing why other people are interested in "inexpensive" homebuilts. 7. Sep 10, 2016 ### litespeed ### litespeed #### Well-Known Member Joined: May 21, 2008 Messages: 1,534 Likes Received: 311 Location: Sydney I am limited in funds and I love working with my hands. Speed is not important but fun is. 8. Sep 10, 2016 ### gtae07 ### gtae07 #### Well-Known Member Joined: Dec 13, 2012 Messages: 1,841 Likes Received: 1,111 Location: Georgia Where are you getting those numbers? rbrochey likes this. 9. Sep 10, 2016 ### skier ### skier #### Well-Known Member Joined: Mar 5, 2008 Messages: 1,078 Likes Received: 338 Location: CT I don't think you're reading those responses correctly. I chose cheap bastard, though I do have a pilots license. The poll only allowed you to select one option, so I don't think you can read the results and figure out how many people have licenses. rbrochey and cheapracer like this. 10. Sep 10, 2016 ### Dana ### Dana #### Super ModeratorStaff Member Joined: Apr 4, 2007 Messages: 8,777 Likes Received: 3,139 Location: CT, USA With the exception of my first plane, 30 years ago (I was looking for a small old taildragger and found the T-Craft), all of my other planes "found" me... I wasn't looking, but they dropped into my lap at a price I couldn't refuse. Dana 11. Sep 10, 2016 ### cheapracer ### cheapracer #### Well-Known Member Joined: Sep 8, 2013 Messages: 5,684 Likes Received: 4,098 Location: Australian I would wonder how much some other things come into the psyche. Things like knowing that occasionally you are going to have a repair bill from a hard landing, storage out of sight hoping no one touches it, damage from just moving it around or having others moving their planes around under the same roof. Like when you get a new car and you're terrified at shopping center car parks for the first few months, does having a cheap plane helps to settle all those nerves? 12. Sep 10, 2016 ### Pops ### Pops #### Well-Known Member Joined: Jan 1, 2013 Messages: 7,386 Likes Received: 6,349 Location: USA. Right on. The last airplane that I restored was a headache. Kept it in a heated and AC hanger. I would just fly it when the grass runway was dry and mowed. Laid towels down on the carpet and took my shoes off to keep it clean. After a flight I would spend at least an hour wiping any bug juice off and going over the entire aircraft. Would spend lots of time going over the polished aluminum to keep it looking new. I sold it to a museum in Berlin, Germany. I had just finished the SSSC and would get in with my muddy shoes and taxie down the wet and soft grass runway and watch the water and mud get slung up on the struts and lower part of the wings and just smile. Happy at last. Glider and rbrochey like this. 13. Sep 10, 2016 ### Tiger Tim ### Tiger Tim #### Well-Known Member Joined: Apr 26, 2013 Messages: 2,974 Likes Received: 1,677 Location: Thunder Bay I like inexpensive flying but I don't fit into any of those categories. For me it's just that the kind of recreational flying I enjoy the most happens to be populated with cheap airplanes. 14. Sep 10, 2016 ### Turd Ferguson ### Turd Ferguson #### Well-Known Member Joined: Mar 14, 2008 Messages: 4,891 Likes Received: 1,791 Location: Upper midwest in a house I'm there. I have a 2 motorcycles. Ride them on occasion. Not much invested so when I don't ride them I don't feel guilty that I have money tied up going to waste. Same with 5 jetskis. Almost no investment because they were junk when I acquired them. My kids and me ride the crap out of them during the summer. If I had to junk one, oh well. Same for boat. I have some machine tools, lathe, milling machine, etc. not much money in that stuff but all of these things are here right now and available when I need it. I want a plane I can fly now and then and more importantly is available when I want it. When I'm not using it I don't want to think about how much money I have tied up which could be used for other purposes. That threshold for me is a capital investment of ~$10k. When it gets too expensive to fly, I'll park it. No guilt that it's not being used. When I have extra money I'll pull it out and fly. Wouldn't think of doing that with a \$50k RV-8. Guess that's why I don't have one. Would not be able to sleep at night.

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### skier

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I'd be interested to know out of all the people on here that say they're interested in inexpensive homebuilts, how many are building one or own one?

I know there are a couple:
Dana
Pops
Wanttaja

Are there other's I'm missing?

16. Sep 10, 2016

### Topaz

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I think that's good material for another poll!

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### cavelamb

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Me?
But I'm not flying any more so I probably don't count.

18. Sep 10, 2016

### Topaz

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I'd like to make sure I understand the "cheap bastard" answers here, because it's very interesting how that's coming to the fore. I'm seeing some themes emerging, and so let me rephrase a very general version of what I'm hearing, and "read it back" to make sure I've got it right:

"I would like to own a new airplane(/homebuilt) but, let's face it, an airplane is a 'toy' or 'luxury' purchase, regardless of its occasional utility for travel, etc. That being the case, I just don't want to spend the kind of money they're usually asking for on that kind of purchase. I have the money for homebuilts that are out there, but the meaning/actual utility an airplane will have for me doesn't add up to those kind of numbers. It just doesn't. An 'inexpensive' alternative is more in line with the value I get from an airplane in my life."​

Is that, as a very general restatement, accurate for you folks in the "cheap bastard" category?

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### skier

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That hits the nail on the head for me.

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