hand held hucks starter

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    bosch high speed 1/2" drill
    8.0 amp motor
    39 lb-ft of torque

    Suppose a 1/2 VW makes 5 hp @ 800 rpm, that's a little less than 35 lb-ft of torque and probably much higher than what it takes to turn the engine over. So the common 1/2" drill above would work fine for this:

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    Sorry, but I can't see that working. When I think back to how easily a bound drillbit can bring the handheld motor to a halt, it just seems that it doesn't have the torque to get the job done.
     
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    I am sure that it would work. Not all drills are that weak. A stuck bit will twist mine right out of my hand. This drill below would work, I think, because it has enough torque and it has the handles to allow you to hold on to it. We are talking about a 1/2 VW, and that's not a lot of torque. Something bigger, maybe not...

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    Easy to back calculate the VW starter and match the output. What I worry about with the rig you are suggesting is the the ripping out of your hand part. I have used drills like that to do all kinds of things and on top of ladders. My electrician friend loaned me his right angle drill for doing large pass throughs when building my house. Scary tools. It can throw you :)
     
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    However, it could backfire. I wonder what happened with the full size Hucks starter when the engine backfired?
     
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    My big half inch Milwaukee has tried to break my arm a few times. The Milwaukee has a threaded receptacle to attach an additional handle so you can break both your arms if you want to. Use the receptacle to attach to a long lever placed against the ground or maybe your thigh and it should start a half VW-maybe even a whole VW. I use it to oil prime new motors and to stir mortar mix and drywall mud. It doesn’t even break a sweat, though I sweat plenty.

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    When building my last house, I got a broken arm from drilling the studs for wiring using a heavy duty 1/2" drill and still using the side handle. My elbow was against the other stub when the bit caught and was not free to move with the drill.
    A 1/2 VW is very easy to hand prop. Most people will just stand behind the prop on the left side and give a prop blade an little flip down to start. Dan
     
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    Yeah, catching an unseen framing nail with a big Forstner bit is a beeeeaaaaatch.
     
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    I saw an STC for a 12V angle drill used to start an A-65.

    Don't have a link, but IIRC, it was in an EAA Experimenter or Kitplanes.

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    I have used a Coleman starter on my kart for quite some time, and they are powerful and have handholds for both hands. You'd have to make sure to order the correct rotation starter. Here's a link to what they look like:*** Out of Stock *** Coleman Self Contained Starter with Gear Reduction - Right Hand : Go Karts Parts: Racing Kart Parts: Engines: Frames: Tires: Versailles, Ohio: USA: Indoor Track: Tips: Chassis: Kits: GoKart: Briggs: Yerf Dog: Manco: Comet: Torque The battery is contained in the enclosure with the starter in this model, and other models use a remote battery to keep the starter weight down. I used a lawn tractor battery in mine, and it tipped the scales at about 30 pounds. You can find these cheaper on karting forums, because many people are leaving karting or upgrading to the lighter starter. I would imagine they'd be strong enough to start a 1/2 VW, as they start some pretty strong engines.

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    Thanks Marty, very interesting!
     
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    Thousands of drag race motorcycles are started with a hand held starter.... too heavy to fly along with you. Never seen any accidents with them myself. Think starter motor with socket welded on where the bendix goes, attached with leads to 12v car battery on handtrucks to roll it all around on. Roots type blower engines are cranked the same, but they are not hand held, and the drive is different.... and usually powered by the golf cart batt pack (24,36,48 volts)
     
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    Ha! A pull starter! Not good for a bad back (which I sometimes have, too), but very interesting. Would make in-flight re-starts interesting!
     

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