Getting Out From Under the Wing?

[wanttobuild]

UWS-4 design on Youtube. You may find the design interesting.

 

[Pilot-34]

You could build a Lockeed Vega

Neat plane but why ?
From wiki
“The Vega could be difficult to land. In her memoir, Elinor Smith wrote that it had "all the glide potential of a boulder falling off a mountain."[2] In addition, forward and side visibility from the cockpit was extremely limited; Lane Wallace, a columnist for Flying magazine, wrote that "Even [in level flight], the windscreen would offer a better view of the sky than anything else, which would make it more of a challenge to detect changes in attitude or bank angle. On takeoff or landing, there'd be almost no forward visibility whatsoever."”

kinda going the wrong direction…..

 

[Pilot-34]

...or a Fokker Super Universal if you don’t feel like making concrete fuselage moulds.

I’m not actually familiar with this plane although I have to admit it seems a little large for my needs.
It seems a little better than the Vega for visibility But does the pilot actually sit forward of the wing?

 

[Vigilant1]

Just to mention it: You can have a high wing as well as excellent visibility if you go with a multiengine design (centerline thrust or engines in the wing).
Cessna 337:
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Tecnam 2006T:
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[Pilot-34]

There is so much about those airplanes that I like especially the 337 on floats……

 

[Vigilant1]

There is so much about those airplanes that I like especially the 337 on floats……

You need to build yourself a Beetlemaster. Two seats, 150 MPH cruise at 60% power (about 4.5 GPH), climb on one engine, no asymmetric thrust gotchas, etc.

(Disclaimer: Performance estimates highly provisional )

 

[Turd Ferguson]

There is so much about those airplanes that I like especially the 337 on floats……

How could we "pimp" that ride? There is a pressurized version of the C-337. Hang a diesel powerplant on each end. I think the P337 holds 6 people (at least 5 for sure). It has retractable gear. It can make it to the flight levels. Fill the booms with fuel in addition to the fuel tanks in the wings for 4000 mile range. Maybe Raptor should have copied the P337????

 

[TFF]

P-34 you are too literal. You asked for a high wing plane with the pilot ahead of the wing and it was delivered. You could never afford one anyway. There would be floods of answers if it was common or useful. It’s a very wasteful configuration when it comes to space and weight.

 

[Vigilant1]

How could we "pimp" that ride? There is a pressurized version of the C-337. Hang a diesel powerplant on each end. I think the P337 holds 6 people (at least 5 for sure). It has retractable gear. It can make it to the flight levels. Fill the booms with fuel in addition to the fuel tanks in the wings for 4000 mile range. Maybe Raptor should have copied the P337????

Or, since Raptor NG wants the marketing cachet of green/hybrid yada yada, they could follow in the steps of these guys and put a diesel in one end an an electric in other end.
I'd rather put a GM V-8 in both slots, but that wouldn't suit the Raptor image.

 

[Pilot-34]

P-34 you are too literal. You asked for a high wing plane with the pilot ahead of the wing and it was delivered. You could never afford one anyway. There would be floods of answers if it was common or useful. It’s a very wasteful configuration when it comes to space and weight.

Yep I am pretty literal when I ask for a way to get the pilot out from under the wing an aircraft where he is buried deep under it just doesn’t trip my trigger.
nothing wrong with a Vega I went out of my way to see the place where Wiley Post crashed his but it doesn’t get you out from under the wing.
As far as it being a waste for configuration why do you say that? Wasteful as in relation to what?
honestly I’m kind of surprised somebody didn’t bring up the optica earlier it seems like it wonderful answer to the mission ,it’s just a little expensive and heavy and slow and I’m not sure whether to call a high wing or not. But still a great plane

 

[Vigilant1]

... I’m kind of surprised somebody didn’t bring up the optica earlier it seems like it wonderful answer to the mission ,it’s just a little expensive and heavy and slow and I’m not sure whether to call a high wing or not. But still a great plane

Well, it has very poor performance for the installed power, reportedly flies like a pig, less than 2 dozen were made (many destroyed in an act of arson at the factory), it isn't available new anymore, and can't be built as a E-AB. Other than that, it would be a good candidate.
I don't think it is a great plane, but it is an interesting looking plane.

 

[Pilot-34]

Lol well I gotta agree with you.

 

[Pilot-34]

Just wanted to repeat the question

Are there any common aircraft with 4 in a line seating or even 1-2-1 ?

 

[Tiger Tim]

Nope.

 

[Pilot-34]

Well even uncommon?
I’ve flown in a 1-2 arrangement but that 1-2-1 or 1-1-1-1 eludes me.
I’m not conceited enough to even begin to believe I’m the first one to have the idea so I suspect I’m simply not a good enough researcher to find it.

 

[rv7charlie]

I can't get you 1-1-1-1, but how about 1-1-1? Do I get extra credit for getting the pilot in front of the wing?

BTW, the obvious solution is a pusher configured engine(s). That moves the CG back far enough to let you move the pilot seat forward.

 

[TerryM76]

Build a bigger Cygnet SF2A......or this .......

 

[wsimpso1]

I can't get you 1-1-1-1, but how about 1-1-1? Do I get extra credit for getting the pilot in front of the wing?

BTW, the obvious solution is a pusher configured engine(s). That moves the CG back far enough to let you move the pilot seat forward.

B-58 Hustler?

 

[Wanttaja]

Just wanted to repeat the question

Dyke Delta had 1-3, and great visibility.

Ron Wanttaja

 

[rv7charlie]

B-58 Hustler?

That would be a bit ambitious, for sure. Click the 1-1-1 link to youtube in the quoted post.
Seating is at ~2:45 point.