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WINGITIS

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The original Archeon flew pretty well with a 50HP 503 so it’s not as draggy as theory would suggest.
I am sure it flies ok, it has a large lifting surface area for its weight...

But they never quote the rate of climb, never mind with a set configuration of weight and horsepower.....

They do quote "UV PROTECTION" I like that humour...
 

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By the way the flying wing Custer version from 1960 is the same Mr Taylor of Piper and Taylorcraft fame.....

As Taylor designed the Pipercub which sold 20,000 units he must have thought the flying wing Custer comcept was at least a promising design!
 

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MORE APPROPRIATELY A FLYING WING VERSION!

TAYLOR 1960 CUSTER FLYING WING...............

View attachment 100345
Mr Taylors comments on the DUCT COP and WING COP are illuminating..

in Fig. 2, for illustration purposes, the approximate
means aerodynamic center of pressure of each side of
the single generally laterally placed wing 24 is indicated
at 24a, with a center of pressure reference line 24b being
drawn therebetween. Further, in Fig. 2 the approximate
line of the aerodynamic center of pressure of the single
channel wing section 27 is indicated at 27a. It can be
clearly seen, therefore, that the line of center of pressure
27a of the channel wing section 27 is clearly forward of
the centers of pressure 24a of the laterally placed wing
24, thereby providing longitudinal stability to the air
craft.
Thus, in the aircraft illustrated in Figs. 1 through 3,
extremely high lift is provided at low forward speeds of
the aircraft by the combined lift features of the channel
wing section 27 and the generally laterally placed wing
24. Further, great lateral stability to the aircraft is
provided by the channel wing section 27, since the end
portions thereof extend generally vertically, and great
longitudinal stability is provided by having the center
of pressure of the channel wing section 27 forward of
the center of pressure of the generally laterally placed
wing 24. The lateral stability of the aircraft is also
aided by the vertical stabilizing members 26.
 

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About structures, I found some interesting patents: F E Best, US2294359; H A Berliner, US2228253; and an Stipa remake: CF Johnson, US1864912.
btw: any suggestion for an airfoil fitting the Roy B Scroggs pat US1848578?
Basically, it has the same leading edge sweptback in Delta as Handley-Page HP-115, where the Concorde wingplan concept was tested at low speeds. The Scroggs machine was reported flying at 10 feet with an OX-5, 90 HP, before an incident with soil, I ignore if this is flying or 'ground-effect', but a mockup of one of 'Caspian Sea monsters' actually went airborne. Thanks. Blessings +
About structures, I found some interesting patents: F E Best, US2294359; H A Berliner, US2228253; and an Stipa remake: CF Johnson, US1864912.
btw: any suggestion for an airfoil fitting the Roy B Scroggs pat US1848578?
Basically, it has the same leading edge sweptback in Delta as Handley-Page HP-115, where the Concorde wingplan concept was tested at low speeds. The Scroggs machine was reported flying at 10 feet with an OX-5, 90 HP, before an incident with soil, I ignore if this is flying or 'ground-effect', but a mockup of one of 'Caspian Sea monsters' actually went airborne. Thanks. Blessings +
Blohm und Voss BV-246, a Gliding Bomb, had wings made of concrete. Patent US2776100 is about making wings in concrete, there are many documents, including FAO books, on Concrete Shipbuilding, also the Karslruhe Tech 'Concrete car that works', with 4 mm thick wall, this opens the way for a new class of fire resistant composites in airplane making; for very hot spots: heat pipes.
Basic features of most materials a homebuilder could use, including concrete, the 'BOSCH Manual of Automobile Technic', has lots of highly valuable data.
Blessings +
 

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Its hard to believe but I guess a glide bomb just streaks down to the target, no climbing required, certainly it could be quick and cheap to build such a wing in wartime, only needs to fly once!Cut_away_section_of_wing_showing_concrete_and_steel_construction_on_BV_246_missile.jpg
 
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