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#### Wanttaja

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When he passed away, Pete Bowers donated his entire collection to Seattle's Museum of Flight. One of the original sets of plans was part of the donation.

The Museum of Flight has scanned in the plans in a searchable PDF format, and have it on their site for free reading/download:

https://digitalcollections.museumoff...ems/show/50159

Note that this version of the plans dates from the same time as the magazine articles, so the PB100 material will be directly applicable.

Pete Bowers Centennial Fly Baby Reboot

18 years ago, Wolfang Dertnig put together a list of plans updates. You can see the changes at:

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/revisions.pdf

Ron Wanttaja

#### TFF

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That is great news. All the work you do and that extra bit is awesome.

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#### Kyle Boatright

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Dang it. All that wasted money on a set of plans with a serial number. Just like my investment in the worm farm.

(Only kidding.)

#### billyvray

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Fantastic, Ron, thanks for the information. I love looking at and sharing plans. I already have my copy.

#### billyvray

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That's sad that they are charging that for unsupported plans. Hell I'd take them and make a new set of electronic plans if for no other reason than to preserve the knowledge. I'd love to see a Stits-Besler Executive/SA-11 running around - maybe lightened up or simplified with some big tires - checks a lot of boxes for me.

#### Wanttaja

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Not a problem at all. You are fully compliant with Clause #2 in the "Rules of the Internet":

The Rules of the Internet – August 2015
By Ron Wanttaja​

1. You will never get the last word. No matter how many arguments you make, no matter what insults or threats you post, someone will always come back with a response. When you’ve made your point, or it’s apparent the other person(s) aren’t going to be swayed by your arguments, stop.

2. Thread drift happens. Your topic is going to morph well beyond what you can imagine. Accept it and don’t freak out.

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Ron Wanttaja

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Ron, do you know if the additional biplane drawings are also part of the museum's holdings? If so, it would be cool to see those scanned and made available, also.

#### Wanttaja

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Ron, do you know if the additional biplane drawings are also part of the museum's holdings? If so, it would be cool to see those scanned and made available, also.
They are not, unfortunately.

Ron Wanttaja

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Rats. Someone who has a set needs to scan them for posterity.

#### Wanttaja

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Rats. Someone who has a set needs to scan them for posterity.
Oh, there are plenty of digital copies making the rounds. *I* can't send them out, but others do.

Ron Wanttaja

#### Geraldc

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In person, “What kind of idiot are you?” accompanied by a grin and a slap on the back is easily recognized as being jocular. Yet the same words in an online message may raise hackles, since it lacks the non-verbal cues.
When I first started doing this someone asked what planet I was on which offended me slightly. Turns out my clock was 12 hours ahead.

#### cavelamb

##### Well-Known Member
Hey Ron,

Long time, no type.

I remember the Air Progress article when I first learned of Pete.
What was it? 1963?
That's the day I fell in love with the Fly Baby.
Still do too.

Richard Lamb

#### Wanttaja

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Hey Ron,

Long time, no type.

I remember the Air Progress article when I first learned of Pete.
What was it? 1963?
That's the day I fell in love with the Fly Baby.
Still do too.

Hi, Richard, good to hear from you. A lot of the old RAH crowd are here. Still have the Baby Ace?

Ron Wanttaja

#### ColonelRaymond

##### Member
Thank you for this.
I assume that no plans for a two-seater exist.

#### Wanttaja

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Thank you for this.
I assume that no plans for a two-seater exist.
Only if you can find the plans for a Hevle Classic. And even they just show the alternate fuselage layout to include the second seat.

Ron Wanttaja