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Kiwi303

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Ok, I'm, not Tunnels....


I thought I would get that out of the way since I'm A) from New Zealand, B) lived in, and may well go back to, China. c) am comfortable using composites.



I'm currently in the research phase of "do I really WANT to build myself a plane?"

Do I or Don't I, that is the Question...



I'm about to dip my feet into the world of flying with my NZ Microlight Pilot Certificate and I mostly want to be able to hop in a plane and head to such places as the BoI or off to Napier, or maybe Hamilton. Where taking the car is prohibitively expensive because of not just fuel, but the bloody ferry fee across the strait. Given the prices for air fare in NZ here, it's a rort where trips to Fiji from or Brisbane can be considerably cheaper than domestic routes, hopping in a plane and going won't be that much cheaper, but far more fun.

And fun is what counts after all...


I've been flying a few times before and enjoyed it, so why not do it myself.






There is the matter of what to build... I would rather build my own and know it is done right than buy someone elses haggard old wreck, while factory built new craft like the Cirrus S22 are out of my budget by quite a bit. For me, New and Done Right and Affordable effectively translate to be DIY home built.


Currently I am looking at the Jodel D.11 with a 155Hp EJ20T and Autoflight 160Hp PSRU, IvoProp Magnum with electric variable in flight drive and CS controller as a tentative prospective build list. First to learn to fly, then to build something to fly.


Why the D.11 and not the D18? the D.11 is heavier and slower than the newer D18. But the 100 litre tankage in the design plus the aussie mod of 2 x 20L wing tankage for 140L over the D18's 65 litre single tank give a longer range.

I want something that I can make a transtasman flight in, or buzz up to the islands via New Caledona and around the pacific.

It will be years before I have the flight skills to make that sort of flight, BUT, it takes years of weekend work to build a plane doesn't it? Build up hours and experience on club aircraft, and by the time you can take off to fly the wild blue yonder, you should have been able to build something to do said exploring in... I doubt any club is going to be happy with you taking one of their club craft they also use for training, and disappearing for a few weeks in it!



What I would Like to do, is work out the structural requirements to replicate the D.11 box spar in Carbon Fibre lapped with glass and foan ribs and a glass and foam sandwich panel skin, the requirements are pretty straightforward, the maths for structural integrity should be within my capabilities with a calculator and some help.


At the moment tho, I'm just stuck in the read-it-all research phase... which is where I found the need to distinguish myself from Tunnels
 

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Welcome! Where in NZ? When I was there last year for my daughter's wedding (here husband is from Wellington, actually lower Hutt) I would have loved to do some flying but we were just too busy. I'll be back some day though, it's a beautiful place and we never got to South Island. Only problem I saw with flying there is there aren't that many airports.

Dana
 

Kiwi303

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Well, I'm Hamilton born and raised, Lived in various places, Kawhia Harbour, Taupo, Nelson Lakes, Nelson, Ashburton, Methven, Rakaia, Rolleston...

I'm basicly a North Island boy slumming it down amidst the great unwashed of the South Is. :p

For NZ airports, check out this site Flycalc - Flight Planner New Zealand

I'm currently working in Rakaia just south of Christchurch, handy airports include Rangiora with the CRAC (Canty Rec Aero Club) with microlights, Christchurch airport and West Melton airports with CAC (Canty aero club) with GA, Mid canty aero club with GA at Ashburton, and Geraldine aero club with microlights at Rangitata Island airstrip on an island midriver.

I'll be doing my MPC with either CRAC at Rangiora or the Rangitata fellas.
 
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Kiwi303

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Thought about it. Liferaft, PLB and Dual ECU seems more cost effective. Twin engines would also raise the weight above the 600Kg NZ and AU Microlight class permitted weight limit.
 

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are!! you!! sure?? your!! not!! tunnels??
Is Tunnels deaf? :D

That's part of the reasoning for the MPC over PPL. I can scrape by the class 2 requirement for hearing, but the MPC has only the commercial drivers licence requirement, and I already have a commercial drivers licence. I am monoaural, only hearing in one ear so one channel on one ear and another channel in the other ear is out. CPL is out. PPL needs a sympathetic doctor who would stand on one side of the room for the test of speaking voice at 6 feet or so but I would still probably end up with a nil-radio clause on the licence. MPC is fine.


I don't think I would ever manage a round the world flight, many of the overseas routes would be sending pilots IFR required, which requires IFR radio endorsements I just wouldn't get. But Tonga, Niue, Noumea, Australia, they all accept if you're legal in NZ with a NZ reg plane, you're legal there. IFR not mandatory..
 

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Im sure they have special issuances just like in the US. Before you get a medical, go do a mock medical, a consultation at the flight surgeon and find out about the weakness' and the specialists you need to deal with that will say you are ok. There are deaf pilots, blind in one eye, color blind, one armed, no legs; the warning is if you go that way, you have to deal with it every medical.
 

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Just an update...

Concluded negotiations, and once he wakes up on the far side of the world and confirms his paypal address, I'll be paying for and waiting for a set of Frank Rogers redrawn plans of the Jodel D.11

So soon I will have the plans set to start my own journey through the world of homebuilding.
 

Kiwi303

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OK!

I can now be upgraded from "Wannabe" to "Dreamer with Plans"


Frank Rogers plans set D11-170 arrived from Aussie via a decade long hiatus in Ireland. :D

That's the Jodel D11 plans re-drafted from French to English with the rear tank removed and two wing tanks fitted, one per wing. I may plumb it if W&B works to put a rear tank back in at a future point with minimal work, albeit smaller than the original tank, to extend the range somewhat.
 

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OK!

I can now be upgraded from "Wannabe" to "Dreamer with Plans"


Frank Rogers plans set D11-170 arrived from Aussie via a decade long hiatus in Ireland. :D

That's the Jodel D11 plans re-drafted from French to English with the rear tank removed and two wing tanks fitted, one per wing. I may plumb it if W&B works to put a rear tank back in at a future point with minimal work, albeit smaller than the original tank, to extend the range somewhat.
I don't know if you've flown one before, but the homebuilt version of the D11 that I flew had absolutely 0 control force feel. Like I said, this was homebuilt, so it could have just been that specific plane. Other than that, it was a nice aircraft. Good luck on your build and please post your progress here.
 
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