#### KeithO

##### Well-Known Member

Now that we are keeping the bigger house, we are renovating that. Once again a major undertaking. So, I just need to make myself clear that I cant afford to commute for 2 hours to some place where I might get 1 hour of instruction twice a week. And keep that up for 70 hours which is typically what the schools want to see before thinking you are ready for your check ride. Lets run the math quickly on that. $149/hr for a cessna 150 x 40 hours dual + 30 hours single @$104/hr =$5960 + $3120 = $9080. Commuting @36.2 miles x2 x70 = 5068 miles and 117 hours of commute time. Assuming 20mpg and $4.50/gal that is another $1140 in gas alone. Total cost $10 220, 117 hours of commuting and 70 hours of flight with an assumed 40 hours of instruction.

My budget so far to buy a trainer along the lines of the Titan was $18k. But it seems like that is not going to cut it in the current market conditions. Maybe if I go as high as $30k I can actually find a 2 seater trainer with a nose wheel. Yes, a lot of money compared to the $10k in training costs with a rental. But lets look at that equation again, because we can likely sell the trainer for very close to what we paid for it (or potentially more) when we are done.

Now we switch operations to KJXN. Thats a 12 min drive or 4.9 miles. An airplane like the CH 601 with an O-200 will burn about 4 gal/hr @ $6/gal thus $24/hr. The instructor will add $50/hr. Same process 40 hours dual and 30 hours single = 40x$74 + 30x$24 = $3680 Time investment = 70 hours + 28 hours commuting 686 miles driven commuting and $154 spent on gas. If we repeated this process for both of us we would save $12k or nearly half the cost of the airplane even at $30k investment. If she needed an extra 30 hours over and above the 70 hours in the baseline, no sweat thats another $720 if she is doing it solo or $2220 if its al dual. Even with the cheapest rental we have found @ $100 an hour (started at $90 till the fuel price shot up) and $50 for the instructor, 8 hours of instruction is running $1200/month and 8 hours a month is really not enough. If we own the plane there is no financial pressure to double that time. No competing for available time slots compounded by weather delays with 60 other people in the club.

But this location does not have tailwheel CFI's and hardly any other CFI's at all for that matter. Its likely though that if we could offer a CFI regular hours, that one could convince them to come to us to do the training, both for the pay and for the hours.

You seem to have all the answers figured out. It's pretty expensive to ignore the advice of guys with hundreds or thousands of hours, but my last word on the subject would be, if a 50 minute one way commute is too much of a sacrifice to make for the five or ten lessons you or your wife would need to solo a taildragger, to be well grounded in flying, it may not be the hobby for you.