EAA video: members only?

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  1. Jun 1, 2019 #1

    mcrae0104

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    I just noticed that EAA put a lot of their previously-free video content behind a paywall.

    This is disappointing. When I first got interested in homebuilding I think I watched every Hints for Homebuilders video they had at the time. I bet others have been introduced to homebuilding the same way.

    I think it's a mistake to consider that content a commodity. Perhaps they were thinking it would drive new memberships. They should think about it the other way. I might not have ever become an EAA member had they not put out so much information to show people how cool homebuilding is and how things are done.

    You guys know in past threads that I've been something of an apologist for EAA but I'm very disappointed that the HQ guys think of this as something to commoditize rather than considering it to be a gift to share with the world and bring more people into the fold.


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    "You guys know in past threads that I've been something of an apologist for EAA but I'm very disappointed that the HQ guys think of this as something to commoditize"

    Those obscene paychecks for the top management, and the donated airplanes that become the private flying toys of said management have to be maintained somehow....and whats even worse, most of that content they will charge for was given freeely by the original content creators. EAA didnt pay the creators.
     
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    EAA is no longer the gatekeeper of knowledge so yeah, I agree it's a bit weird locking those down considering free content is the norm these days.

    I'm a EAA member, the fee is just not a issue for me but it still irritates me because they they act like it's the 1980's. That's just not how it works.
     
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    Ouch. And now I have to actually switch from acquiring to building missing airplane parts. :-/
    Someone else start the thread, I got banned after my first post there about cops packing guns at their meetings. It may be time for a Pepsi challenger to arise to their Coca Cola.

    I might be able to get a warez login if I ask my local EAA chapter vice president for his. Being an outsider himself, he's sweet on me.

    I watched a ton of them but the only thing that stuck was you got to deburr rivet holes and go happy nuts with safety wire and goop on anything that vibrates, or might fall out and go into a big spinning fan. Everything else just kind of gets forgotten, until maybe you do it IRL.
     
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    I don't like half of what EAA does. So I renew my membership every other year. Gives me a small sense of empowerment since I can't vote.
    Works for me. I like Airventure, but might start doing that every other year as well.
     
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    I agree. If EAA wants to promote itself, that content should be accessible to the public.

    Is it members only, or do they have a non-member access fee? I can understand maybe having a small one time non-member fee to help offset the costs of maintaining the server.
     
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    I see both sides. I support EAA because they are the only effective lobbying organization for smaller and homebuilt GA. I also understand that having a larger number of "members" is important to being able to flex their (our) muscles on Capitol Hill.

    I'm also an explosive cheapskate and transform into The Hulk whenever I have to let the moths out of my wallet for anything.

    Now if there were tiered memberships, where it would cost you $5 a year to be an "associate member" or a "youth member" or something (with access to these formerly free videos,a nd the EAA forum, etc.), then maybe this would solve both sides of the problem.
     
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    Not sure what's going on, but I was able to access the videos without logging in. The webinars are locked down for sure tho.
     
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    I can get webinars without logging in.
     
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    I opened up a private window in Firefox and didn't log into the EAA site. Still could access the videos.

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    Yup. Did the same. Everything is still available for free to anyone at anytime.
     
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    How long did the video play?
     
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    I am a member of the EAA for the lobbying and camping at Oshkosh. All organizations who still have magazines have made them fluff because of sites like this. Information is fast and can be had fast if someone responds. If the company is non profit, it has to print a member newsletter, not much more cost to just make it a magazine. Get some add revenue. Unlucky pay to see or watch will take over the Internet . It is slowly marching that way. Right now sites are being grabbed for content and will be bundled for you to buy. I’m thinking of it as the new magazine subscription. There will always be free but it will not have the value of information if it can be sold. If they want to do it right , we have no choice in it, I would like to buy month only. That way I could switch around. One month cars, one airplane... somethings I would want all the time. There needs to be an option like a magazine rack. Pick one up I want but might not want it next month. There is only so much money one can set aside in the budget for hobby info no matter the venue.
     
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    I accessed several to verify they started and that I was not required to log in. Only ran them for a few seconds. Are you saying they stop in mid-run?

    Ron Wanttaja
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Which video? I'll try running it.

    Ron Wanttaja
     
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    Read the orange print in this screenshot.

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    Sonuvagun, you're right. It runs for about 15 seconds, then wants a login.

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