The curb might have just saved him from gaining enough speed and/or altitude to do some real harm.So what we're learning here is that we should not test fly an aircraft if there is a concrete curb near the runway?
How come that's not in the instructions?
Oh wait... Page 1 of the Common sense Manual.
Very sad.Three New York National Guard soldiers were killed Wednesday night when their helicopter crashed while on a routine training mission in upstate New York, according to the New York State Division of Military and Naval Affairs.www.cnn.com
This is agree with, 100%. As far as learning "how" to avoid a crash, I have doubts.
I know it's always good to agree with everyone, don't makes waves, etc, but when it comes to safety I leave ego at the door. If people want really good dialog on crashes, which is a seriously great discussion in our hobby, what is it we would learn?
Like many people I've read a lot of reports and articles. I came to the conclusion there's not a single article I've read where I actually learned something I didn't already know. On accident reports I've read often times I walk away thinking "what moron would do this in an airplane?" Like running out of fuel, turning back, low altitude showing off, etc etc. I'm sure you'd agree.
Ok, now let's talk mechanical errors. Sure, there's a little bit of learning but most aircraft engine technology is ancient, it's been hashed over a million times and pilots need to read and study BEFORE flying. And of course there's the mechanical anomalies that nobody can predict. Tough to learn from those.
Weather causes accidents. Where's the learning here that's not common sense?
I suppose there's always the accidents that are a series of multiple poor decisions, those are very specialized and hard to learn from. If the pilot died it's almost always speculation.
I'm not trying to upset anyone, I enjoy hard core stimulating dialog. My points are valid and worth discussion if people are truly interested in safety and not just getting thrills from reading death reports.
Can anyone list the top 5 reasons a homebuilt airplane crashes with a 100% fatality? I would like to see that list.
Not by my analysis....It is typically the systems that fail.
Then I would say pilot and or builder error is next.
Not by my analysis....
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The "Control Group" in this case is a combination of Cessna 172s and 210s, excluding training accidents.
This is from my presentation next week for EAA's virtual "Homebuilders Weeks," folks who are interested might sign on....
If one person learns a lesson from an accident, and at a point in the future survives because of it, then the death has some meaning.
I'll admit that many folks discuss accidents out of morbid curiosity or the desire to gossip, but feel there's often value in discussing accidents anyway.
I could never understand the logic of flying with a wing that can collapse on a whim of the wind or weather let alone on the merest hint of airborne abuse or mismanagement by the pilot. Even the most experienced in our midst make mistakes but if the wing is rigid at least you have a chance of recovering, especially at low level. Not so if you're a paraglider as we see time after time on Youtube.I have watched too many Youtube videos of paragliders getting seriously injured and or going on some wild rides before they finally caught a break and became untangled in their cords.
Seems awfully unsafe to me.
I like rag and tube truss structures for crash survivability.Eagle Point, Oregon crash & burn. 2 self-extract from wreck and expected to recover. Cause yet unknown. View attachment 106790
Local police and Federal Aviation Administration officials have released new information about the plane that crashed and burned in a field outside Eagle Point city limits, and the two occupants who survived with only minor injuries.mailtribune.com