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Voidhawk9

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'Good' places to land are certainly sparse in many of the areas I have flown as well, often rugged and mountainous.
That doesn't stop me always having a 'best option' in the back of my mind, however. And keeping my eyes open for alternatives (ie farms strips etc). OR flying in such a way as to practically maximize options.
 

Bille Floyd

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... the reality is that it's not possible if you actually "use" an airplane as transportation.
When there, "IS" an alternative place to land ; you actually think it's
Ok to: (Not know about it) ?

Did read my last post ; and understand it ? Where did ,( flying over Everglades)
come from ?

A few years back, i was in an R-22 heli, with a buddy. We had 35-kt airspeed
and had maybe 200' AGL, when i asked him what speed he needed to do a full
auto landing. He looked at me and his face turned red; so i reminded him
the thing powering the heli was NOT a turbine, and an ICE , can Not be trusted.
He gained 500' immediately, and increased his speed to 60 ; i felt Way better.
When we landed ; he thanked me !!!


Bille
 
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Bille Floyd

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'Good' places to land are certainly sparse in many of the areas I have flown as well, often rugged and mountainous.
That doesn't stop me always having a 'best option' in the back of my mind, however. And keeping my eyes open for alternatives (ie farms strips etc). OR flying in such a way as to practically maximize options.
Your a pilot, that i'd feel Good , about flying with !!!

Was in the back of a T-34,over the Adirondack's, with my Dad, in the early 60's ;
he said the Same thing as you Voidhawk9 !!

Bille
 

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If aircraft manufacturers would just stop making their aircraft out of thin and lightweight aluminum and composite materials, we wouldn't see such extensive damage resulting from simple collisions and impacts with the ground.
The heavier a plane is the more energy has to be dissipated in a crash. That is why you see so few crashes of jets and twins where the occupants survive. I know pilots who have "landed" their ultralight in a tree and walked away from it. Even heavier experimental, like the RVs can usually land in a field safely. I have heard one story (TRUE) of a lady whose Aircoupe had an engine out over a wooded area and she stalled it purposely in a treetop and also walked away. A larger, heavier plane may have killed her.
 

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...Did read my last post ; and understand it ? ...
Yes I did. I saw this:

...Why do GA motor-heads , think it's OK , to fly over stuff without a back-Up landing aria ?
Bille...
And my answer was illustrated in the pictures of a past trip.

If the picture isn't clear enough, allow me to articulate: Us "GA motor-heads" use our airplanes to get somewhere. We don't spend our time floating around in a thermal writing haiku. In short, we got $hit to do, and sometimes that takes us over places that will make you "Glider heads" soil your purdy pink panties.
 
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Wanttaja

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Why do GA motor-heads , think it's OK , to fly over stuff
without a back-Up landing aria ?
Landing ‘Aria’? Hmmmmmmm……. here's a couple.

---------------------------------------------
Is this a real flight?
Or is this just fantasy?
It sure ain’t a flight sim
I’m flying in reality!

Lower the flaps
Look down at the ground, and see…..

It’s just a peat bog
Filled with live gators,

So it’s throttle in
Flap switch up
Raise the nose
Grab some air

And which way the wind blows,
Really, really matters, to me….

To me……


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And...here's the backup landing aria:

Flight time sharpens, heightens your sensations
Too high, too fast, what would be your best reaction?
Throttle to the min, just slip that sucker in
Harken to the airflow rushing by
Just listen to the music of the flight….

The fenceline rushes by, with metal gleam
Your tires are just fifty feet above
Back with the joystick for the flare….

And the landing is what it ought to be…..

---------------------------------------------

Ron "Pagliacci" Wanttaja
 

D Hillberg

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When there, "IS" an alternative place to land ; you actually think it's
Ok to: (Not know about it) ?

Did read my last post ; and understand it ? Where did ,( flying over Everglades)
come from ?

A few years back, i was in an R-22 heli, with a buddy. We had 35-kt airspeed
and had maybe 200' AGL, when i asked him what speed he needed to do a full
auto landing. He looked at me and his face turned red; so i reminded him
the thing powering the heli was NOT a turbine, and an ICE , can Not be trusted.
He gained 500' immediately, and increased his speed to 60 ; i felt Way better.
When we landed ; he thanked me !!!


Bille
Out side the H/V demonstrate an Auto. zero/zero landing.
 

Bille Floyd

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@ BJC


You will enjoy this :
My friend John, ( owner of the glider park in Idaho, and tow pilot) ; he s
sides with you motor-heads .

First thing he's gonna do, when i get there this spring, is strap me in
the tow plane, and fly me down the snake river, at a few hundred feet
above the rapids.
Then he's gonna make me clean the crap off the seat i was in !:(

This is gonna Suck ; i got control issues !

Bille
 
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