Crashes in the News - Thread

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  1. Sep 22, 2016 #321

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    How do you guys feel about the "Drunk in a Cub" routines?
     
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    Never seen one.

    Have seen lots of "farmer / hick / idiot who does not know how to fly" acts, but never a drunk.


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    "Flippy planes" don't do anything for me, either. I'm impressed they have the skill to do it, but for me, it doesn't get any better than this:
    Matt Younkin.jpg [video=youtube;h1qSzCnzXvY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1qSzCnzXvY&feature=youtu.be&t=8s[/video]
     
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    Same thing... you say "potato", I say "drunk".


    Lines from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:

    Ford: It's an unpleasant sensation, rather like being drunk.
    Arthur: What's unpleasant about being drunk?
    Ford: Ask a glass of water.
     
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    We touched on that subject here once. I continue to believe now what I believed then: Irresponsible "entertainment" that does more to give our sport a bad image than all the crashes put together. I've yet to have one happen at the shows I attend. If one does, I'll be writing a letter to the organizers.

    I'm not saying we all have to present the perfect "sky captain" image, but the non-flying public is already skittish about drunk or stupid pilots doing dangerous things. Don't put that image in their heads with first-hand experience, even if it's just acting.
     
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    I don't think the routine at Oshkosh is "drunk Cub pilot". More like untrained guy borrowing the airplane or something.
    One act drops one of the ailerons and keeps the crazy flying with one aileron.
    I don't care for it much, but I suppose the majority of revenue comes from local families that expect to be entertained.
     
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    I'm glad to learn that there are others who feel as I do.

    I cringe whenever I see a low flying aircraft that isn't attempting to land. Maybe it's under control (Bob Hoover), or maybe it's not. I don't attend pure "air shows" for that reason. Earlier this summer I planned to attend the nearby Madras fly-in because there were other things going on but at the last minute, decided not to. The next day I heard there was a fatality. Witnessing that would not have been good for my psyche.
     
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    The most entertaining snippet of airshow I have seen was as one of the Aus motorbike GPs.

    They basically had an army helicopter impersonating a dog.

    Pretty girl walks out with the chopper on a lead, it sat up, begged, she threw a ball for it to retrieve (by blowing it back with the downwash) : by half way through, I was starting to see it as a dog myself!

    I've never seen anything like it before or since.
     
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    The most "entertaining" comedy airshow act I ever saw was Brian Lansburg doing his "Krashbern T. Throttlebottom" story. If was funny, dramatic and lame all at the same time. His sIdekick was Ace the Wonder Dog.

    I liked Jimmy Franklin's "ZAR" routine in the Aerostar because it was big loopy, classic type aerobatics. I ilked Jimmy Franklin's inverted ribbon cut in the Waco the first time I saw it; after that it made me nervous. The conventional inverted ribbon cut has the ribbon strung between two poles; Jimmy used two soda bottles. The top of the rudder was only inches above the runway. The first time was more of a disbelief thing. Craig Hosking says Jimmy Franklin's inverted ribbon cut was so low he could have just landed the plane which inspired Craig to create the "Double Take" Pitts, with landing gear on top of the wing so it could be landed inverted (although that had already been done back in the barnstormer era).
     
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    The term "airborne guillotine" comes to mind.

    Once saw a hardware store bolt being used as the "Jesus bolt" on a gyro being displayed at Sun n Fun by the manufacturer. I asked him why he used that rather than an AN bolt. He told me that he knew what he was doing, and the hardware bolt was just fine.


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    Do remember eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable, including that of police.
     
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    That is one lucky gyro pilot! A couple of seconds later and he would have been history.
     
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    The FAA latter decided that the state police was correct, they just wanted to ignore the large amount of facts in the crash to make it easier on them to rubber stamp it and go home.
     
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    I guess that's why I'd rather put her down in a field, hope I can get a trailer there first. To much reg's on who can fly.. kr2 1.jpg
     
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    That's right. Get the site cleaned up before anyone gets there.
     
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    Okay ..... Here's the scenario:
    A 28 year old Jordanian national with a pilot's license wants to get some training in a twin.
    He and his instructor start fighting over the controls as he (student) deviates from the glide path on final.

    What's in the vicinity you might ask? The Pratt & Whitney facility that makes our military aircraft engines.

    The plane crashes short and is engulfed in flames. The instructor gets out and tells the first responders "This was no accident!"

    Did anyone miss that in the national news?
    Amazing the priorities that the national media has.
    NTSB: East Hartford Plane Crash Was An Intentional Act
     
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    I was referring to broadcast media.
    Yeah .... isn't that true about 9/11 as well.
    It would be all over the "Reality News" shows if he had talked dirty on the radio,
     
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    If the student intentionally slammed it into the ground, then it is attempted murder of his instructor at a minimum. And others on the ground.
    Not simply suicide.
     

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