Crashes in the News - Thread

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    Many years ago, a local TV station was covering a hot air balloon launch. After a short pre-flight comment, the balloon lifted off and the reporter started some friendly chat with the anchor back in the studio. When the balloon, still in the background in the shot, reached 30 or 40 feet AGL, the rip panel opened, and the balloon crashed. The reporter and the cameraman ran over to the crash, where the basket was on its side and the pilot was about half way out, also on his side and groaning loudly. The reported stuck the mike in the pilot’s face and asked, “What happened?”. The pilot screamed out in pain, whereupon, the reporter asked, “Are you OK?”. The pilot screamed again, only louder. That ended the live coverage. At 11:00PM, they reported that the pilot had several broken bones.


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    It's a real pity that nobody made that reporter scream in pain.
     
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    They can feel pain!?
     
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    Reports still filtering in on the Ercoupe crash in Ak-Chin, AZ. There were 2 `coupes in that organization, so details will probably emerge.
    Both occupants seem ok. As noted: "When the gremlins are out, the best place to be is in an Ercoupe." This from a guy who has had 2 incidents there in...
     
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    At my airport. Departure stall. Student instructor T&G. They were lucky they did not get real high. I don’t think any big injuries.
     

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    That are the pain.
     
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    It appears to be a glider by the apparent lack of an engine. I’m glad they are OK.
     
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    No, the engine is there. Just pointing 90 deg down. Engine is still in the cowl.
     
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    I knew that. Humor does not always transfer in this format.
     
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    First glance I thought they had taken it off. It’s off to the side of the runway 50-75 yards so no interference with traffic, but it was out there all day so they must be rallying some inspectors and don’t want it moved. FSDO is only 5 miles away. They are usually there in 30 to hour. Looks good for the incoming traffic.
     
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    Unfortunately that is not the truth, The original Ercoupe was a two control plane, as in no rudder pedals. The rudders and ailerons were cross linked to the yoke with a very conservative range of travel. But post war many and most were converted to 3 control with the addition of rudder pedals which greatly improved the performance of the plane.
    The unfortunate aspect about increasing performance is one can now slow the plane down more which brings the ability to make mistakes.
     
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    CharlieN:

    What is it that BB wrote that is not the truth? My first airplane ride was in an Ercoupe, but I was too young to remember it, and I never have flown one.

    Thanks,


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    Aft cg.
     
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    We have a reporter in town that does a real hatchet job on aviation reports, trying to cast it as unsafe. When she comes out to the airport with her camera crew looking for comments following any airplane crash that makes the news, everyone here snubs her and won’t say anything on camera except maybe the occasional “No one wants to talk to you; you have no idea what you’re talking about.”
     
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    Just wear a red “Make Aviation Great Again” hat and she will refuse to interview you.


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    LMAO
     
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    I see a t-shirt opportunity.
     
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    I’m going to hire Charles to protect my copyright.


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    Erm... Not quite, Charlie:
    "The original Ercoupe was a two control plane, as in no rudder pedals. "
    It was designed to go either way, as marketing would determine.
    "The rudders and ailerons were cross linked to the yoke with a very conservative range of travel."
    They are indeed fastened together. Like the Wright Brothers did in their early Flyers. Up elevator travel moved through out production - 13 degrees, then 9, etc.
    "But post war many and most were converted to 3 control with the addition of rudder pedals which greatly improved the performance of the plane."
    Not that many were converted, and some independent yaw controls have gone in and out of the same airframe. Because of the lack of "Tail Volume," independent yaw doesn't buy one much in so far as "Slipping it in." Wing dihedrel at 7 degrees also has an affect.
    "The unfortunate aspect about increasing performance is one can now slow the plane down more which brings the ability to make mistakes."
    It does indeed develop a "High-speed Sink" which cannot be detected (short of looking at vert. speed indic.) until one is too close to the ground to correct.
     

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